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legion 03-03-2008 04:54 PM

That's a great application for an Aztek.

Car thieves will not touch it... :D

HardDrive 03-03-2008 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 3805645)
Much like the Prius I actually get angry when I see one of these. I know it doesn't make any sense and it's probably a hint at a character flaw of mine or something but I seriously get angry at the sight of them. Weird.

I don't get angry at the Prius, but Azteks certainly bother me. They represent a total failure in a critical industry in the USA. I grew up in the Detroit area, and it sickens me to see what has happened.

Some one, some where signed off on this thing, and that person should be outed as the idiot that they are.

Zef 03-03-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3805578)
People actually bought 924s' to!

Any 924 still better than a GM product.

Normy 03-03-2008 05:28 PM

Well, at least the Aztec won't blow its oil all over the road 1 mile from your house when you need it to bring you to your first day at the company that will retire you in good stead....

IF you show up on time!

That god-damn Jetta [I will **have a hard time buying** any VAG product, whether it be Volkswagen, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Lamborghini, or Bugatti....after owning my current 1997 VW Jetta GLX]. This car illustrates that the VAG corporate mind isn't with the consumer, it is with the bottom line. What the hell? If I wanted to support an automobile company that didn't give the first f*ck about its clientelle, then I would have bought a chevy cavalier instead of that Jetta.

There I was thinking that the folks in Wolfsburg where actually different from the folks in Detroit. Hello?

My dad bought a chevy chevette in 1980; It had all of 65 horsepower, it weighed over 2200 pounds, and because of its automatic transmission, it was capable of 1 mph per horsepower. That is, it wouldn't go over 65 mph.

A few years later my brother bought a 1980 VW Rabbit diesel. He used to drive to Detroit up the expessway at times- 55 miles each way. He had a brick that he kept on the floor board- he'd set it against the gas pedal when it was all the way down, and that was his 70 mph "cruise control". This means that the engine was wide open for about an hour each way. Of course, it didn't care at all! I suspect that engine would quite happily run under water as long as you got air to the intake! NOTHING stopped that engine!

Now: Why can't Volkswagen build their cars like that now? That '97 is worthless, and if you buy your kids a 3rd generation VW Golf/Jetta you are cursing them with problems. My VR6 Jetta goes like the proverbial "raped ape"- I'm not kidding, you floor that thing and when it gets above about 3500 rpm you best have both hands on the wheel because the speedometer unwinds toward 100+ mph in seconds! This car is scary fast- it will fool you via the automatic transmission, but if you plant your left foot, you will barbecue any four-cylinder Porsche in seconds, and work on the SC's and the early 928's.

Yet... the quality is beyond CRAP! It makes Hyudai look good. Actually...this lack of quality? It probably MADE Hyundai!

Pontiac has its' loser, as does VW. I suspect that one could find a Porsche-badged product that is actually a GREAT car, but just doesn't work overall....

N!

Rick Lee 03-03-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 3805645)
Much like the Prius I actually get angry when I see one of these. I know it doesn't make any sense and it's probably a hint at a character flaw of mine or something but I seriously get angry at the sight of them. Weird.

Pretty much how I feel too. Anyone who owns an Aztec is living proof that Americans would buy $hit in a shoebox if marketed correctly. Only thing that bothers me about the Prius is that around here they're allowed in the carpool lanes with just the driver and no passengers, which completely defeats the idea behind the carpool lanes. A prius with one person in it causes just as much traffic as a BMW with three in it.

Noah930 03-03-2008 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave L (Post 3805991)
I love this consumer review from edmunds

Just bought this '02 Aztek,and I love it.The dealer gave me a great deal on it, since he thought it was so ugly, he didn't want it on his lot. http://www.edmunds.com/pontiac/aztek/2002/consumerreview.html

Ha ha. I like this one from that link:
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I find its exterior looks to be very appealing
For all I know, it could be a great car, mechanically. (Though I doubt it, since my father-in-law has a Rendezvous and I hate it.) But this car's styling is obviously the worst to roll off any manufacturer's line in decades.

lendaddy 03-03-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 3806137)
Pretty much how I feel too. Anyone who owns an Aztec is living proof that Americans would buy $hit in a shoebox if marketed correctly. Only thing that bothers me about the Prius is that around here they're allowed in the carpool lanes with just the driver and no passengers, which completely defeats the idea behind the carpool lanes. A prius with one person in it causes just as much traffic as a BMW with three in it.

Yea, it's not really the car I guess it's more likely what I expect the driver is. I could be and likely am wrong in many cases, but it's my initial reaction.

Hugh R 03-03-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 3805645)
Much like the Prius I actually get angry when I see one of these. I know it doesn't make any sense and it's probably a hint at a character flaw of mine or something but I seriously get angry at the sight of them. Weird.

Do you get the same reaction with a Camry Hybrid? I looked at the Prius and tried to make myself like it, I just couldn't, bought the Camry hybid instead. It drives and feels like a regular Camry, but gets about 34 mpg.

lendaddy 03-03-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 3806164)
Do you get the same reaction with a Camry Hybrid? I looked at the Prius and tried to make myself like it, I just couldn't, bought the Camry hybid instead. It drives and feels like a regular Camry, but gets about 34 mpg.

No, not at all. The Prius is a rolling bumper sticker in my mind where as the Camry is just a personal decision.

CJFusco 03-03-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 3805578)
People actually bought 924s' to!

The difference is that the 924 was actually a pretty cool-looking little car, especially for the 1970s.

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Originally Posted by Normy (Post 3805578)
if you plant your left foot, you will barbecue any four-cylinder Porsche in seconds, and work on the SC's and the early 928's.

any four-cylinder Porsche? Ever drive a 951? Faster than an early 928 and a 911SC... not that I'm nitpicking or anything ;)

In all seriousness, the Pontiac Aztek was easily the ugliest car to ever lumber across America's roadways.

Porsche-O-Phile 03-03-2008 06:17 PM

Agreed. My old 951 was modded, but didn't have heavy internal mods or heavy suspension mods. I'd walk 928s routinely (and 911s, and Boxsters, and Evos and lots of others. . .) I'm not saying the 928 isn't a good car - it is - but a heavily modded 951 will beat just about anything on the road, even today. It's a platform that can be made very, very fast.

They are, however, prone to exploding into flames at inconvenient times.

Dave L 03-03-2008 07:26 PM

Okay, I just had a Run'N"Coke so I am prepared to admit to something. I like the outdoors I kayak, mountainbike, snowboard, camp, all the good stuff. When I first HEARD about the Asstec I was very interested, dent resitant side mouldings, good cargo space, could tow a trailer, decent fuel economy, factory roof rack, it really sounded decent. Then, HOLY MOTHER OF JESUS, WHAT THE HELL IS THAT!!!!!!!! The first images made me want to jab a screwdriver into each eye socket.

I feel dirty and violated now.

MT930 03-03-2008 08:01 PM

Aztek stole the ugly award from the Pacer

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1204603215.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1204603243.jpg

unclebilly 03-03-2008 08:38 PM

I rented one once for a trip out to the coast and back. Me and 4 buddies and my dog.

It was a pretty embarrasing ride. Not really practical, not really great.

Wickd89 03-03-2008 09:19 PM

friend in Florida just bought a brand new 2005 Crossfire for $17K with less than 20 miles on it. Great deal even for a Chrysler..

gostraight 03-03-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickd89 (Post 3806562)
friend in Florida just bought a brand new 2005 Crossfire for $17K with less than 20 miles on it. Great deal even for a Chrysler..

Aren't those 99.9% Mercedes? sounds like a good deal to me

Wickd89 03-03-2008 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gostraight (Post 3806587)
Aren't those 99.9% Mercedes? sounds like a good deal to me

Yup. Pretty much a SLK with a cooler body.
He plans to ship it home from FL to Spain and make some money...

t951 03-04-2008 05:48 AM

I believe that people who buy Azteks must be the same people that are convinced into buying car insurance from a talking cartoon gecko.

I would like to nominate the BMW Z4 as being ugly enough to qualify for the Aztek/Pacer award. Not one line flows, just hideous. Another Bangle design that causes acid reflux just by looking.

CJFusco 03-04-2008 07:26 AM

^ I disagree strongly. Whereas I don't like the cold, geometrical, mathematicians-wet-dream Bangle/"New Edge" designs at all, the Bimmer's long, sweeping, curved hood alone puts it a few tiers above Aztek. There is, simply, not a single other car that is ugly enough to claim to be a peer to the Aztek.

legion 03-04-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CJFusco (Post 3807011)
There is, simply, not a single other car that is ugly enough to claim to be a peer to the Aztek.

In America.

Some of the stuff that isn't brought to our shores is pretty ugly. Just about anything by Peugeot, Citroen, and Renault comes to mind. The now-defunct Rover also gets an honorable mention. Go to South America, India, or Asia. There are some cars made by U.S. and Japanese companies that are pretty ugly too.


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