Yesterday in Germany, a Lufthansa jet nearly crash-landed (Video)

[fxeditor]

Here is a video of some amazing piloting. This is why you guys get paid the big bucks!

http://tinyurl.com/2dy73d

[slodave]

Whew! That was some strong wind. That jet was crabbing big time!

[Joeaksa]

Yea and the numb nuts flying the airplane did not know what he was doing either! Typical of these guys, (I have been an instructor over there for years) is that they put young kids through flight school, then into a light airplane and then on the line with around 220 hours total flight hours. They know the procedures and books very well but do not have the experience to fly in difficult conditions.

This approach was descent until he got low, then watch the way the pilot lets the right wing up into the wind. The wind then picks the wing up and almost grounds the left wingtip, which would have caused a crash.

These guys need to practice a whole lot more then go and try some of the really difficult airports like Hong Kong or in South America. This did not need to happen...

[968rz]

That guy has b@lls the size of grapefruit (and pants full of s***).
Hats off to him for trying and pulling out with out damage.

[aigel]

The one Kraut in the audio thinks he saw the wing touch the runway. Don't think so.

George

[beepbeep]

Originally Posted by aigel

The one Kraut in the audio thinks he saw the wing touch the runway. Don't think so.

George

You better do:




wingtip completely bent upwards, lower half of winglet bent inboard at about 45 degrees, slat partly grounded. No further damage.

[Tim Hancock]

Question for the guys flying the heavy stuff..... Why do airliners touch down a bit crooked in crosswinds? When I fly small airplanes, I drop my upwind wing and use opposite rudder to hold myself straight in line with the runway just prior to touching down. Are the controls to heavy to do this in an airliner? The loads imposed on the landing must be intense.

[beepbeep]

P.S.

Here's another one that tried to fly trough CB-cloud:

[fingpilot]

Ah, there is the problem!

The radar antenna was clearly bent and did not show the weather they were about to encounter!

[BlueSideUp]

Tim a lot of the heavier equipment is designed to be landed in a crab like that. If you get the chance to taxi behind a Classic 737 when there is any wind you'll see that they crab on the ground because there is some caster built into the main landing gear. The concern on that aircraft is of course dragging an engine using the normal technique of kicking out the crab at the last minute and inputing upwind aileron.

On the CL-65 we are taught to kick it out at the last second, get it on the ground so the ground lift dump spoilers activate, and input the aileron. Our demonstrated crosswind max is 30 knots. If you land with more than 7 degrees of bank when the aircraft is pitched up in the flare you'll drag the wingtips. That's all applicable to the 50 seat or 200 series CL-65. The 700 and 900 sit much higher off the ground.

My tailwheel experience has really come in handy when flying these aircraft if you can believe it. As Joe pointed out the crosswind landing in a jet requires some level of feel and experience. I feel that the experience of wheel landing a taildragger in a stiff crosswind helped prepare me for handling crosswinds. The crew in the video seemed to be suffering from a bit of rectal cranial inversion seeing that they didn't go around much earlier.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by fingpilot

Ah, there is the problem!

The radar antenna was clearly bent and did not show the weather they were about to encounter!

Best laugh all day...it is never my fault either.

[cgarr]

The Ercoupe without rudder controls I heard had swivel mains so you could land them sideways but I dont think it does swivel so I dont know how they land them? If I get in a crosswind that is just too much I just shoot for a patch of grass into the wind.

[Jim727]

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock

Question for the guys flying the heavy stuff..... Why do airliners touch down a bit crooked in crosswinds? When I fly small airplanes, I drop my upwind wing and use opposite rudder to hold myself straight in line with the runway just prior to touching down. Are the controls to heavy to do this in an airliner? The loads imposed on the landing must be intense.

We didn't land the 727 in a crab. Cross-control and touched down just fine. The only a/c I can think of offhand that are designed for landing in a crab are the T-38 and B-52, though I'm sure there are others.

Jim

[Neilk]

Here are some more pictures.

[pbflyz]

Originally Posted by Jim727

We didn't land the 727 in a crab. Cross-control and touched down just fine. The only a/c I can think of offhand that are designed for landing in a crab are the T-38 and B-52, though I'm sure there are others.

Jim

Boeing states that you can land the 747 in a crab (I forget the number of degrees), though most pilots don't as it's very punishing to the gear. Boeing also is more than happy to sell you replacement parts!

[HardDrive]

I love how you can see the moment when he screams, "I need zee power!", and the engine thrust kicks in.

[MattKellett]

Not knowing a damn thing about aviation, I wouldn't know if the pilot did a good job or not!!!!

But, I can tell you one thing, if I was a passenger on that flight, I would be almost ****ting my pants for the next landing!!!!!


Matt

[Joeaksa]

Matt,

You should be crapping in your pants if you were a pax. The pilots let it get much futher than it should have ever gotten without starting the go around procedure.

This is not that difficult when done correctly. Hope they learned on the 2nd landing.

Joe

[Laneco]

As a passenger I would have definately have needed a change of panties after that...

angela

[artplumber]

Joe,
Do they routinely have to dismantle the entire wing after something like that or just pull off the winglet?