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Classic; I love that movie. Nice job. Get back to work.
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If they ever do write the book on Pelican OT, this thread could be held up as sort of a Rorschach test demonstrating the different ways that people react to a certain stimulus. My initial reaction to all jingoism is the same as RPK's, I knew instantly that I was reading some made-up BS that the NASCAR crowd slaps each other on the back over, and I am conditioned to dismiss it. "You could have heard a pin drop"..., yeah, that and a pud being whacked as some fool made this up. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but insipid jingoism is a uniquely American trait. Fortunately not held by most intelligent people, who view patriotism in its proper context which is to give credit where due for positive marks we've made in the world without turning a blind eye to the opposite. This country will not disintegrate from internal dissent, but it might from the policies of certain flag lapel-wearing thieves and con men. You can tell a lot about a person by their jokes. When they are not particularly witty or clever but instead are simply designed to flush-out who is "down with the cause", it's more revealing than they probably intended. It's also ironic that the most jingoistic are often frat-boy Bush cheerleaders like Sammy who've never risked anything while the "liberals" like DariSC and RPK (I think) actually put their skin on the line. :cool: |
Well, I like the first two paragraphs (thanks for actually forming them), but the last one bugs me. It throws people under the bus so to speak. Extremism is not the norm around here (although is it fun to poke at them), and I think your particularly normal Dennis. Why?
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I was worried I wouldn't get my daily dose of self loathing enlightenment today, thanks.:D
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or a dose of flaming bigotry
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I the interest of getting along,
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WTF is one more lie from our erudite colleague who had "know by all as a peacemaker" under his posts for 2 full days before someone pointed it out. (In bold letters, no less). The PPOT brain trust speaks...
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Even though they pop up on all boards from time to time, I find posts like this "pin drop" thing real strange... I've also noticed they often come from people who have not travelled much and instead pass along those unverifiable tales in the hopes of stirring patriotism, not a good kind of patriotism either...
Americans seem to have a big chip on their shoulder about being hated worldwide, not sure why. In my experience that is really far from true ! I've travelled and lived abroad a fair bit, and AFAIK, the only people that HATE americans are working for terrorist groups in the middle east. Nobody else gives much of a rat's a$$ where you are from, they might dislike your government for its actions abroad (most of which you never hear about domestically), but rarely *you* personally. People are people, they like or dislike *invididuals*, nothing to do with nationality. If you're a nice guy and moderately aware of what goes on outside the US borders, chances are you won't be disliked at all and might get involvedin some interesting conversations. Now if you come along waving a flag and thumping your chest with that "Pin drop" attitude and zero knowledge of geopolitical matters, all bets are off... I'm also amused it -invariably- degenerates to France bashing, as if France was the great enemy of US idealogy... It's ridiculous... Most recent french bashing was caused by their opposition to the war in Iraq. Excuse me, but does Iraq still look like a good idea to anyone ? not saying we should leave or stay, but if you could go back a few years, would you do it again ? kinda sounds like they were right on that front (no WMD, thousands of lives, more trouble than it's worth) and the bashing looks more like sour grapes more than rational thought ! I kinda wish most of my US compatriots would start giving less of a $hit about what the rest of the world thinks of them and get out more to see for themselves ! Hard to do with the dollar in the toilet though ! |
Relax boys. Us durn for'ners all love Clint Eastwood and Arnold.
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Ah-nold is a durn forner.;)
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Bush damage, pure and simple. The world viewed the U.S. differently before Bush. That Iraq prison torture thing killed us in the 3rd World. The irony is that Bush has done a lot of good in Africa, thanks to Colin Powell's efforts as Sec. of State. But Iraq has overshadowed it.
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some believe that certain countries owe us respect & gratitude.
problem, most of those folks who did.. are dead,dying or have moved on. It'a new game / with different rules. Rika |
Don't let the French Taunt you! :rolleyes:
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I'll presume you did not know, and not claim you were a liar. |
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If you knew French bureaucracy you would know they apply this type of nit-picking to every area of their lives. That is part and parcel of their system (the French are famous for the level of bureaucratic delays) It is not just to you or just to Americans. And your “solution” is to make life difficult for them when they (the flight crews?) are over in America? Wow, now that is quite mature. :rolleyes: Let’s not use school-yard insults just to prop up our sense of patriotism. |
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BTW, my research capabilities must have been poor, because I was forced to go on to a postgraduate degree and am published (during my education) in several journals. Stupid, uncomprehending me:rolleyes: |
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School yard insults? Please look in the mirror or at your fellow countrymen and ask why they are doing this to us, then lets talk. You fail to address why these actions are being taken only in france. |
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Not to worry, we are stupid Americans and know nothing. Why the people of the world are jumping our borders trying to get in is a mystery, but never the less I understand its happening. I understand that there are even french trying to get in America, being tired of the high taxes and knowing that the country is slowly going downhill in the world, but guess its just a false rumour. I assume that you learned how to do heart surgery by watching the cartoons on Saturday morning on the television? Could not have been in the OR or classrooms where my ex-wife learned transplants. Oops, she was a German and Germans do not know anything either. Only the frogs know these things. Sorry for the slip... Joe |
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So since he did die, AND there was no negligence, just as in Teddy's case, I don't want to hear any of you lefties bring it up again. This was apparently a similar situation to Teddy's & you guys find that very easy to overlook! |
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i go away for a little while and someone i know slams me, how could that happen? well you mother dresses you funny:rolleyes: that and i'm never riding in your car again:( when's the alfa track day? see you at the track saturday:) |
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Joe, I think that RPK is an American and a vet. Not sure, but reasonably sure.
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This thread could use a little music.
Here's a nice little love ballad that should help... ;) <object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Vl07chI6XAY&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Vl07chI6XAY&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object> Randy :D |
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The assignment was clear: kill or capture Jamadi. The CIA had identified the Iraqi as a former officer in Saddam Hussein's army and a key leader of a terrorist cell. He was also considered a suspect in an attack on the al-Rashid Hotel during a visit by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz in October 2003. SEAL Dan Cerrillo described the capture to CIA investigators six months later. As Cerrillo placed a charge on the apartment, the door opened. Cerrillo rushed the door, striking Jamadi with it. Then, according to the report, Cerrillo hit Jamadi "in the face with two fists and attempted to wrestle the subject to the ground, but Jamadi resisted and they engaged in hand-to-hand combat." After a considerable struggle, Jamadi was eventually subdued and cuffed by Cerrillo, a hood was placed over his head, and he was taken first to an Army base, then to the SEALS field base, known as Camp Jenny Pozzi. |
You guys are like me and one of my brother in laws. We disagree, I call him an idiot, he calls me a fascist, and then he says next time you come over bring your own beer.
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Mule, I do not follow your reasoning. Equating running off a road into a pond to this death is a stretch. Or are you just comparing the apparent coverups in both cases.
"Nearly two years later, the CIA is still investigating Jamadi's death. A military autopsy labeled his death a homicide, due to "blunt force trauma to the torso complicated by compromised respiration." Autopsy photos show lacerations and multiple bruises on Jamadi's feet, thighs and arms. His most significant injuries -- five broken ribs -- are not visible in the photos. There were no bruises in that area, leading military medical examiners to say that the fractures were probably caused by a slow, deliberate application of force, such as someone kneeling on his chest. NPR consulted Dr. Edmund Donoghue, chief medical examiner of Cook County, Ill., and president of the American Academy of Forensic Scientists, on the military's autopsy report. Donoghue agreed with its findings. How Jamadi was shackled "makes it very difficult to breathe because you are suspended in a very awkward position," Donoghue told NPR. "When you combine it with having the hood over your head and having broken ribs, it's fairly clear that this death was caused by asphyxia because he couldn't breathe properly," said Donoghue." |
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