I meant sexy female French Resistance fighter, a la Hogan's Heros. Or the French country girls Snoopy romances. Not that there's anything wrong with the other thing.

I saw these comments on Axis and thought they were well put:


This was good too...

Its about time the worlds oldest profession was legalized

the dudes toast.

Wonder how much it cost Ron Dennis to get the video done? Money well spent IMHO...

Max has consistantly been biased against McLaren and Ron Dennis, so this might be payback for the $100 million bux fine. Ron might have nothing to do with the video but it sure could be some McLaren fans who knew about Max's little Nazi fetish for years and now decided to expose what he is really like.

It gets better. Now Max admits to being in the video but says that its ok as it was behind closed doors and none of us needed to know about it anyway.

He says that its "legal and harmless" but guess he has forgotten that prostitution is not legal in London, then says that if he had gotten stopped for driving while drinking that he would resign that day, but we are lead to believe that sex parties mocking the prisoners in the death camps is just fine.

He is going down and clawing his way to the edge before being swallowed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7332030.stm

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"Had I been caught driving excessively fast on a public road or over the alcohol limit, I should have resigned the same day," Mosley wrote.

I played no role in this, indeed I did my utmost to ensure it remained private. I was the victim of a disgusting conspiracy

"As it is, a scandal paper obtained by illegal means pictures of something I did in private which, although unacceptable to some people, was harmless and completely legal.

"Many people do things in their bedrooms or have personal habits which others find repugnant. But as long as they keep them private, nobody objects.

"The offence seems to be not what I did but the fact that it became public," wrote Mosley, who said he had received support from 20 FIA clubs and representatives of 50 others.

"But I played no role in this, indeed I did my utmost to ensure it remained private. I was the victim of a disgusting conspiracy.

"It goes without saying that the so-called Nazi element is pure fabrication. This will become crystal clear when the matter comes to trial.

"I don't think any of this should affect my work on motoring safety, the environment or the sport," he continued.

"I believe that 21st century adults do not worry about private sexual matters as long as they are legal and harmless.

"I shall put this view to the (FIA) Assembly in due course."

On Thursday, Mosley called an extraordinary meeting of the FIA to discuss the matter, to be held in Paris at the earliest possible date.

Well, the court in the UK refused to block the "News of the World" from showing the video today. Mosley tried to block it but the court said that its more or less out on the internet now and you cannot stop it.

Poor Max, sees his entire career and reputation going down the tubes right in front of his eyes. Just what he deserves and I really, really hope that Ron Dennis or a McLaren supporter had something to do with it.

Unfortunately for Max this isn't a private matter anymore and I don't think anyone should "get over it". Max is a public figure; he represents the most respected international motorsports organizations in the world- whose events cross many cultures both conservative and liberal. And whose sponsors and fans shower them with millions of dollars.

What he did evokes one of the most horrific events in history. If I were a sponsor or host for an FIA event I would be seriously questioning my participation with an organization that feels this is a "private matter" and something I should "get over".

The one who needs to get over it is Max. If he had any sense of propriety, class or honor he would have stepped down immediately. Of course he doesn't but most of us realized that a long time ago.

I'm glad Lewis had the b*lls to speak up. Too bad Kimi doesn't. Either one of them (to say nothing of lesser figures in the FIA or on the teams) would have been gone in a heartbeat if they were caught doing the same thing.

ANYBODY who thinks the holocaust was a joke or funny or....sexy (wtf?)....should put a gun to their head right now and do the world a favor.

Fvching pigs.

The darkness that this 'fantasy' aludes to is beyond comprehension.

Go back and rereading this I come across like I do not think playing out a Nazi role is bad. I just wanted to be clear, I would never condone such a act and find it extremely distasteful.

Looking at what he is accused of, role playing a Nazi concentration camp, <---- when put words it is disgusting.

Never make sex tapes and you will never have a problem in your life. People do some really disgusting things in this world and I find a lot of it offensive, more offensive than what Max did, I am half tempted to put a link to a video that will freak you out, it was put on another car website I go to with the dare to watch it more than 20 seconds and I could not, I got sick to my stomach and nearly passed out, not many watched more than 10 seconds and those that did were questioned about their sanity. The intent of the video was to incite erotic feelings with those who are into self genital mutilation.

I have met families that have lost members in concentration camps, I have supplied materials to my sons teacher to use in class while they learn about the holocaust and I am chaperoning his class when they go on a field trip to a Holocaust Museum in Tamps next week. I am very aware of the atrocities that happened and I am in no way making light of Max's accusations.

The man walked into a room with 2 naked women, I do not know if he ordered this fantasy or if it was arranged and he had no idea what he was walking into. Or maybe he ordered it who knows, I would wonder how many of the offended here would turn and walk out of they walked into this "game" or if they would play along just to get some.

Max was set up, he most likely deserves what is coming to him as he appears to be a nasty human being.

My protest was not about the holocaust content, or about Max but more about an invasion of privacy. something intended to be private was put out in public and that is wrong no matter the content. That was my only point.

And the only point that needs to be made. As long as no one is getting hurt and no minors are involved, I could frankly care less what puts the lead in old Max's tie rod. And nor should any of the rest of you folks, unless you also desire to be judged on your behavior behind closed doors.

I'll disagree again. I don't buy the Marion Berry defense and think this privacy bull***** you guys are spouting is just that.

If you don't want to do the time don't do the crime. I could care less what people do in private but if you're a public figure you better be d*mn careful that what you do in private does not deflect from what you are- or want to be- in public- and if it does you better be extra damn careful you don't caught doing it if you want to keep your job.

If what anyone does in private is made public they will be judged- whether they want to or not. That's just the way it is. We've judged politicians, models, actors and other public figures- from rest room stalls to the oval office- why should Max get a break?

If Max wanted to do this ***** he should have done it in his own house and ensured no one got pictures or recordings. The stupid b*stard asked for it- and his actions have been judged, rightfully IMO, as sick and disgusting. Now I hope he pays the price.

I suspect Vodafone and others have already made it clear that either Max goes or they do. Do you really think Bernie will value friendship over money??

Let this be a lesson- don't ever f*ck with Ron Dennis.

I'd be surpised if those conversations hadn't already taken place.

From the story in the Telegraph over the weekend:


"The paddock is awash with public silence. Behind the refusal to comment, private indignation rages - particularly in F1's commercial community. The uber bosses of global business were in Bahrain, sharing confidential meetings and exchanges. Sir Fred Goodwin, chief executive of the Royal Bank of Scotland, title sponsor of Williams, met with Ecclestone. Arun Sarin, chief executive of Vodafone, title sponsor of McLaren, was also in the F1 village. "








Tim

I'm sitting in a hotel in Old Town Alexandria, Va, waiting to go to a dinner during which I will be honored for all my stellar accomplishments in the UAV world...none of which I actually did but had enough of a hand in to warrant the silly plaque.

The real workers in my world, the ones who actually did the work, have been banished, only after punishment. They will not get plaques.;)

So...in many regards, I am a public figure. And, frankly, you guys scare me...and are the reason I am so against any intrusion into my private life, the reason I am a Libertarian. I believe the only people who should be punished in this sad saga are the ones who released the tapes for their own personal gain.

Max is the President of the F'ing Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile. I didn't know he was an elected government official. So, cairns, you better be careful what you ask for since I bet you belong to a public organization of some sort and are therefore under the same scrutiny you believe Max deserves.

And please spare me the Holocaust connection...we all know finding it erotic is beyond the pale.

You don't have to be a government offical to warrant scrutiny within your private life. And it has nothing to do what I am or am not asking for.

And while I understand that you don't want any intrusion in your private life (I certainly don't in mine and am probably far more of a libertarian than you would think) this situation is much different.

Max is a public figure. He essentially represents thousands of people and hundreds of companies and dozens of countries who have paid, literally, hundreds of millions of dollars to have their products, people and images associated with F1. When his private life tarnishes that image he's f*cked- there's no way around it. Max failed to take responsibility for his private actions.

So let me put it another way: If you want to engage in hookers and blow- have at it. I don't care and am certainly not going to pry into your private life and don't think anyone else should. But if you engage in hookers and blow and are also president of the boy scouts- you're not, IMO, accepting that your position as super scoutmaster requires that you exercise restraint and good judgment in your private life. And if you get caught and want to say to the boy scouts "it's not fair- this is my private life!" I would say tough *****. You're no longer capable of representing the boy scouts. A you shouldn't have done it. And b you got caught.

I personally would love to engage in an evening (or more) of hookers and blow- but if I do, and get caught, my security clearance is going to get revoked and I'm going to lose my job. And my wife would kill me. So I don't do that. If Max really wanted to keep his job he shouldn't have done it either.

google "nazi + furry"

Remember the above post? Looks like I was not the only one wondering about this!

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Dennis denies Mosley scandal link

Ron Dennis

McLaren were fined £50m for their role in the F1 spying scandal

McLaren boss Ron Dennis has denied he had any involvement in the newspaper expose into the private life of the head of motorsport Max Mosley.

Reports suggested the story, which claimed Mosley took part in a "Nazi-style orgy", could be linked to last year's F1 spying controversy.

But Dennis said: "I categorically deny I have anything to do with the story."

Dennis's McLaren team were fined £50m and stripped of constructors' points for possessing Ferrari documents.

And Radovan Novak, general secretary of the Czech Automobile Association, is alleged to have suggested in a Prague radio interview that the newspaper sting and the spying scandal are connected.

"We are writing to Mr Novak and are currently considering the appropriate route via which the remarks that have been attributed to him may be withdrawn or corrected," said Dennis.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7377743.stm

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