Let the fefutatation begin! :)
 

1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.1
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2
3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3
4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4
5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5
6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6

7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7
8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8
9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9
10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.10

OK, now I'm really depressed. Thanks.

Please :( - don' chute de messenger!

Givin the option I guess I am going to have to vote for McCain. No doubt about it.

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For my fefutation, I'd like you to see this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AdFA6WWJ7E

.ps I posted this in the other thread too :D

Still better'n letting this country turn into a communist gulag under H.C. or B.O.

Re: #5 - that bill was a total sham. Rejecting it was the right course of action. Re: #6 - he's correct. I don't have a problem with him telling people that over-leveraged themselves to suck it up and deal with the consequences of their own stupidity. Re: #7, maybe - but maybe that'll make the nutjobs in the middle east think twice before f*cking with us.

How 'bout we just chute the turd tosser? ...."Please"..."messenger":rolleyes:

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Not my turds, Island; you wanna to catch em' an' refute em' one by one, have at it.

Betcha ya cain't do ever one with jus' one line :cool:.

"Please" sounds sooo prissy :D.

you're a bit slow, eh?

Wow. I'm really starting to like McCain! DARISC, Thanks for coming up with all the great things about im. He will make a great President.

AND now MAYBE DARISC can see HOW STUPID replies to post, w/in a quote with BIG RED LETTERS reads

Ewwww, ANGER, ANGER, ANGER!! :D.

Yes, exactly, you look like an angry attention whore.

HAHAHA! You are SO predictable!

Do you really think it was ME who came up with all those GREAT THINGS about him?!!

Where's your point by point refutations (I hunger for new knowledge - like "what WMDs were found before we clobbered Iraq?" :D).

(You have your green, Island (a kind aid you provide for those you don't deem intelligent enough to recognize your sophisticated sarcasm? Very charitable of you.) I have my big bold boisterous red :)).

Ya got me! I am SO angry! :D
So drag yourself off the personal attack level and refute the posted info (I didn't make it up - might not be irrefutable (*****! There I go being coy again!).

Are you guys showing man love?

"Fefutatations"? Is that something I need to get in order to keep my gererator working properly? :D

Randy

+1 to everything said here

[QUOTE=Porsche-O-Phile;3869888]Still better'n letting this country turn into a communist gulag under H.C. or B.O.

Re: #6 - he's correct. I don't have a problem with him telling people that over-leveraged themselves to suck it up and deal with the consequences of their own stupidity.

+ 1 ! Why should us taxpayers have to bail out some idiot who decided to live above his means.

Fine, since no one liked my silly post here's my unreasonable response.

Which "key" civil rights laws does he continue to oppose?

So? He's more aggressive. Does that automatically mean that we will be involved in more wars?

As said before, the man knows what real torture is and what is not. I'd defer to his judgment on the subject before I'd listen to just about anyone else.

As said before, it was a bad ruling that made new law out of whole cloth. It should be a states rights issue and likely will revolve to that.

The name "Children's Defense Fund" implies that they are apolitical. They are not.

As said before, why should others bail out those that took the bait? I sold and sat out of the market for a few years now thinking it was ridiculous. I am glad I did.

Many? One? Hmm... I don't like quotes without attribution.

Follow the money. Oh wait, McCain doesn't do ear marks unlike other candidates. And Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) is a jerk and should be tossed out on his ear.

I don't care for this kind of pandering either. But Democrats need to make up their minds on the role of God in politics.

Again, not an apolitical group.


So yeah, there's my fefutation. I prefer the muppet rick roll better though.

6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6

He signed a pre-nup, his wife's money is "his wife's money" he shows as his income his retirement and Senate salary.
Not at all what The Clintons make.

what is that huge lump on the side of his head?

[QUOTE=DARISC;3869705]1. John McCain voted against establishing a national holiday in honor of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Now he says his position has "evolved," yet he's continued to oppose key civil rights laws.
He should have held his ground, King was a con man, a plagiarist, and an extortionist who became very wealthy on the back of the civil rights movement. It was and is a very worthwhile cause but King used it for personal gain. Support the cause, not the man.
2. According to Bloomberg News, McCain is more hawkish than Bush on Iraq, Russia and China. Conservative columnist Pat Buchanan says McCain "will make Cheney look like Gandhi."2
Bloomberg, now there's an opinion worth listening to.
3. His reputation is built on his opposition to torture, but McCain voted against a bill to ban waterboarding, and then applauded President Bush for vetoing that ban.3
I support waterboarding so I don't have a problem with this. Caring more about a terrorist than our country is liberal treason IMO.
4. McCain opposes a woman's right to choose. He said, "I do not support Roe versus Wade. It should be overturned."4
I agree with him, killing an unborn child is murder.
5. The Children's Defense Fund rated McCain as the worst senator in Congress for children. He voted against the children's health care bill last year, then defended Bush's veto of the bill.5
This, like so many other "ranking" organizations, rank politicians based on one thing: how much money did they give away? If McCain spend billions to support this special interest group, he'd be ranked at the top instead of the bottom. Money grabbing extortion.
6. He's one of the richest people in a Senate filled with millionaires. The Associated Press reports he and his wife own at least eight homes! Yet McCain says the solution to the housing crisis is for people facing foreclosure to get a "second job" and skip their vacations.6
So you think that people who can't pay a mortgage they should never have agreed to should go on vacation instead of living up to a legal contract they signed? No, I guess being responsible is over-rated.
7. Many of McCain's fellow Republican senators say he's too reckless to be commander in chief. One Republican senator said: "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine. He's erratic. He's hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."7
I don't know the man and have never seen him lose his temper. It might be true or it might be a bunch of BS. Who said that, in what context, and why? Answer those questions and this quote might start to have at least a scrap of validity, until then it is absolutely meaningless.
8. McCain talks a lot about taking on special interests, but his campaign manager and top advisers are actually lobbyists. The government watchdog group Public Citizen says McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates.8
How much money did he give lobbyists and special interest groups? What, he gave the least? Wow, that's an interesting tidbit, probably worthy of mention unless someone has a hidden agenda and doesn't want the whole truth to come out. Suggesting he panders to lobbyists is a blatant lie. He is one of the only ones that doesn't and that suggestion is intentionally misleading and dishonest.
9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion." McCain sought the political support of right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9
While I seriously doubt he ever said anything like that at all, I have said much of that and believe it to be true (except the catholic part, they are just misled by the popes and lost the way of Christ), so I don't have a problem with that at all. You are making McCain sound better and better all the time.
10. He positions himself as pro-environment, but he scored a 0—yes, zero—from the League of Conservation Voters last year.
All that means is he didn't give them lots of our tax money. See item number 5 and number 8.


Seriously, if this is the best dirt you can come up with you're in trouble. I could say worse things about him than that (that would also be closer to the truth) and I'm a republican. I don't really like McCain that much because he's too liberal but most of these things are so thin you can see right through them.

Gee whiz, I'm in trouble? Not my "dirt". Didn't "come up' with any of it. Just saw it and posted it to see what the responses here would be (boy, am I ever surprised! :D).

I just had the thought - I wonder if I'd have been left out of the responses (not personally attacked, assuming that I was posting this as the irrefutable (there, I corrected my typo) facts) if I'd prefaced my post with "Hey, whaddayou guys think of this load of crap being put out there about McCain?"
:)

Heck, I own five homes and am just a low paid government employee...but I do skip vacations and have a second job. Sounds like good advice to me.

Isn't great that we have such great options to choose from!

We are such a diverse country, and that is great, but we will never agree fully! Thank God we have some pre-set rules..The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
I would add the Bible, but wanted to respect the separation of Church and State..