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porsche4life 04-10-2008 06:31 PM

Computer help plz.... Very bad virus
 
I was looking for a audio converter and found this.
http://www.softwarepile.com/audio_converter.html
It looked fine so I gave it a try and after it downloaded it popped up that it needed to restart. so I let it. Once it reboots a message pops up that windows has encountered a critical error and will restart in 1 minute. I try to click shut down and it tells me that i dont have permission to do that. It then goes into a continuos cycle of resart and crash. The pc is running Vista and already has Norton 360. Can anyone help?

slodave 04-10-2008 06:41 PM

Have you tried to boot into safe mode? It doesn't really sound like it is a virus.

stomachmonkey 04-10-2008 06:41 PM

Software and co seem to be kosh.

Restart in safe mode if such a thing still exists in Vista.

Remove SW.

Curious, did you disable Virus protection when you installed? Usually a good idea to do that.

SlowToady 04-10-2008 06:51 PM

GET RID OF NORTON 360. It's a horrible, horrible piece of software. NOD32 by eset is a much better AV product.

Will wait on more information to comment further:)

idontknow 04-10-2008 07:01 PM

Buy a Mac.

Someone had to say it!

porsche4life 04-10-2008 07:01 PM

How do I reboot in safe mode?
I didnt do anything to the virus protection when i installed.
I cant afford a Mac.

slodave 04-10-2008 07:04 PM

Restart the computer - oh, it's already doing that... Right after restart, hit the F8 key repeatedly. You should get the "Windows Advanced Options Menu". From there, choose safe mode.

stomachmonkey 04-10-2008 07:06 PM

1. Restart your computer.
2. When the computer starts you will see your computer's hardware being listed. When you see this information start to gently tap the F8 key repeatedly until you are presented with the Windows Vista Advanced Boot Options.
3.Select the Safe Mode option using the arrow keys.
4.Then press the enter key on your keyboard to boot into Vista Safe Mode.
5. When Windows starts you will be at a typical logon screen. Logon to your computer and Vista will enter Safe mode.
6. Do whatever tasks you require, and when you are done, reboot to go back into normal mode.


When you install SW it's a good idea to disable virus protection.

The SW may need to install in a directory or modify the system in a way that the AV protection thinks is a virus. So your install can become corrupt causing problems not unlike what you are experiencing.

porsche4life 04-10-2008 07:14 PM

I never get that screen and f8 isnt working.

slodave 04-10-2008 07:16 PM

Hold the power button for about 10 seconds. This should turn the computer off. Turn it back on and immediately hit the F8 key.

porsche4life 04-10-2008 07:30 PM

LOL Rage helps.
I got ticked and turned off the power strip. When I turned it back on it wanted to do a restart check or something like that. It restored to an earlier point and the software was no longer there and now it is working fine.

slodave 04-10-2008 07:39 PM

Whatever works.

porsche4life 04-10-2008 07:48 PM

Yup... thanks guys... I am typing from the culprit computer.
Now what anitvirus is best?
And where can i get something to convert from wmas to mp3's... does that software pile thing check out ok

SlowToady 04-10-2008 07:49 PM

Glad you got it resolved. Laundry prevented me from replying:) I would still advise you to get rid of Norton 360. It's a POS, and there are MUCH better solutions out there.

porsche4life 04-10-2008 08:15 PM

Ok well I may do that but at the moment I'm too worried. This is the first scare in over a year with this computer havent had any other bugs at all knock on wood. The isp i use is supposed to be very secure.

Z-man 04-11-2008 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 3879857)
Restart the computer - oh, it's already doing that...

Coffee through the nose.

What I want to know is how was porsche4life posting here if his computer was going roundy-round and not booting up?!?

Sounds like a glitch in the Matrix.

-Z

jcunning 04-11-2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowToady (Post 3879943)
Glad you got it resolved. Laundry prevented me from replying:) I would still advise you to get rid of Norton 360. It's a POS, and there are MUCH better solutions out there.

Everyone will have their opinion about anti-virus/software...
I believe they all do a relatively decent job of protecting you against the most common virus'. You just need to decide which one works better for you.

I have used Norton software for many years and I have had no problems with it. Nice GUI, simple to use, doesn't seem to eat too much CPU. I really do not like McAffee compared to Norton. I have also tried CA (Computer Associates), and I rank that below McAffee. Awhile back I used a package called Panda. I was pretty happy with that but it was more expensive than Norton. I keep coming back to Norton after trying the others. As I said before, they all seem to do the same thing. It comes down to your own preference.

CORNICE6 04-11-2008 08:28 AM

Like Jeff said, everyone will have their own opinion on AV SW. I too have used Norton for a number of years without any problems.

You can try Avast Home Edition. It's free and they got good reviews!

http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Good luck!

MysticLlama 04-11-2008 08:34 AM

Handy tip in case it starts doing it again:

When it gives you the 60 second shutdown notice, go to start->run
shutdown /a
OK

That should abort the shutdown process and let you go on to finding/fixing the problem.

SlowToady 04-11-2008 08:42 AM

Not exactly. All AV software is NOT created equally. There are numerous tests available online that show that Norton's detection rate is damned low; lower than most others, and lower, even, than the free AV software. You can Google it if you wish.

Also, you can't say you haven't had any virus' when using Norton if you haven't used other scanners at the same time. If Norton won't detect it, you'll never know you have a problem.

They all "do the same thing" in that they are supposed to check your system for virus'. However, the heuristics by which they go about this are vastly different, leading to widely varying detection rates.

I'm not trying to start a religious AV war here, but be aware that there are MUCH better products, for the same or less money. In every instance that I've used Symantec/Norton products, the experience hasn't been a good one. Here's just one example: If you connect to a POP3 server on a non-standard port, like I do, Norton 360 won't let you connect and OE gives you cryptic errors. Only by disabling Norton E-Mail virus checking could I get OE to connect. WTF?

Joeaksa 04-11-2008 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 3879940)
Now what anitvirus is best?

AVG is free, does not clog up your system and works good. Hard to beat.

porsche4life 04-11-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z-man (Post 3880340)
Coffee through the nose.

What I want to know is how was porsche4life posting here if his computer was going roundy-round and not booting up?!?

Sounds like a glitch in the Matrix.

-Z

I'm Magic. :D:D

Actually I went to the other computer we have and started looking for solutions.

mkaraoglan 04-13-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 3879940)
Yup... thanks guys... I am typing from the culprit computer.
Now what anitvirus is best?
And where can i get something to convert from wmas to mp3's... does that software pile thing check out ok


try: http://zamzar.com/

i like it because it's all online.

3.2 CAB 04-14-2008 06:26 AM

Have you actually looked in your hard drives files to really make sure that the program is not there. These types of things just don't go away by their self, and if you did not manually, actively remove the program files, it is still hiding somewhere inside. Better do a check, because there is no telling just what it is just waiting to do, or what it is actually doing, without your knowledge.

WolfeMacleod 04-14-2008 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 3879940)
And where can i get something to convert from wmas to mp3's...

Wolfe's wife here. I use Super http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html and have never had any problems with it. I use it to convert both audio and video and it works well at both. Also, it's freeware and is regularly updated with new codecs to stay up-to-date as new codecs are developed.

3.2 CAB 04-14-2008 11:50 AM

Hi Wolfe's Wife! It just sort of sounded neat to say that. Tony.

gtc 04-14-2008 12:11 PM

I don't know why everyone thinks Macs are un-hackable...
Quote:

Originally Posted by idontknow (Post 3879848)
Buy a Mac.

Someone had to say it!


Seric 04-14-2008 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtc (Post 3885981)
I don't know why everyone thinks Macs are un-hackable...


Nothing is safe from viruses and hacks. Windoz is just the preffered OS to exploit since it's everywhere.

"Anti-Virus" is anything but.

porsche4life 04-14-2008 07:34 PM

:mad:I Hate Vista!!!
Just downloaded Super and now it wont convert files b/c i am running vista.:mad:

slodave 04-14-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 3886857)
:mad:I Hate Vista!!!
Just downloaded Super and now it wont convert files b/c i am running vista.:mad:

Find the SUPERsetup.exe file and right click on it. See if there is an option to 'Run as Administrator',. If so, click on it and see if that helps with the install.

Dave

porsche4life 04-15-2008 12:59 PM

Ok I ran it as administrator and it appears to be working.

porsche4life 04-15-2008 01:17 PM

Can anyone recommend a free dvd ripping software?


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