Democrats, taxes, and beer

BeyGon · 04-13-2008, 06:41 AM

The "Pasadena Star-News" reports San Jose Democrat Jim Beall has introduced a bill hiking the state tax on beer by 30-cents per can or bottle. The current tax is two-cents. Beal says the stiffer tax would raise two-billion-dollars per year to pay for healthcare, crime prevention and programs to prevent underage drinking and alcohol addition. The tax increase would have to be passed by a two-thirds vote in the state Senate and Assembly. And, because it's an amendment to the state constitution, it would have to be approved by California voters. Republicans say neither of those things will ever happen.

Like a lot of taxes, if I really thought it would work I wouldn't have a problem with it, but this once again would just be wasted. Until the California leaders clean up their own mess, more taxes won't help anything.
Who is this guy?

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

Typical liberal...they want to raise taxes on everything. It is just a giant ponzi wealth redistribution scheme. Most already have their millions...and they'll be damned is the rest of us have the opportunity to make ours. They know much better how to spend our money than we do....

fintstone · fintstone's Garage

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Originally Posted by BeyGon

... Beal says the stiffer tax would raise two-billion-dollars per year to pay for healthcare, crime prevention and programs to prevent underage drinking and alcohol addition...

Code for: "Support me and I will buy you great stuff with other folk's money."

Jim Bremner · 04-13-2008, 12:04 PM

MRM · 04-13-2008, 12:08 PM

Hillary hates beer.

berettafan · 04-13-2008, 12:11 PM

have you seen her thighs? i don't think she hates anything that can be eaten or drunk.

MRM · 12:27 PM

She likes white wine and brie. Lots of calories and butter fat. Very sophisticated and elite.

berettafan · 04-13-2008, 12:35 PM

white wine, pshaaa!

Jim Richards · 04-13-2008, 12:49 PM

I may be wrong, but union workers that vote Dem may like beer. The Dems are gonna get slaughtered for this.

legion · 04-13-2008, 01:11 PM

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I may be wrong, but union workers that vote Dem may like beer. The Dems are gonna get slaughtered for this.

And that is the distinction between the brie-eating politicians and the great unwashed masses they depend on.

sammyg2 · 04-13-2008, 01:14 PM

OK, that's just about far enough. I've complained about the democrats plenty over the years but never got really hostile. Now they've gone too far, messing with my beer! Them's fightin words mister!

BeyGon · 04-13-2008, 01:19 PM

Some places, some Countries sell beer cheap to keep the masses happy, don't the Democrats see this. I want cheap beer.

legion · 04-13-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon

Some places, some Countries sell beer cheap to keep the masses happy, don't the Democrats see this. I want cheap beer.

And it was the same with cigarettes too.

And then Dickie Scruggs sued the tobacco companies, and it became in-vogue to tax the hell out of cigarettes. The greedy politicians, seeing a chance to take more money (and increase their influence), are spreading the "sin tax" to other things...

SlowToady · 04-13-2008, 01:24 PM

Legion, think of the children, will you?

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And it was the same with cigarettes too.

And then Dickie Scruggs sued the tobacco companies, and it became in-vogue to tax the hell out of cigarettes. The greedy politicians, seeing a chance to take more money (and increase their influence), are spreading the "sin tax" to other things...

on2wheels52 · on2wheels52's Garage

Maybe there'll be beer stamps for qualifying incomes.
Jim

legion · 04-13-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowToady

Legion, think of the children, will you?

I am. I am picturing stone-cold sober college kids on a Saturday night. And it makes me sad. Very sad.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 04-13-2008, 01:44 PM

Standard negotiating tactic. currently 2 cents. propose 30 cents. make a deal for 10 cents.

SlowToady · 04-13-2008, 01:47 PM

Haha. I guess you weren't picturing UK last night:-P I wouldn't win a game of beer pong to save my life.

I sort of had an idea. I know, it's a crazy one. Like, really far out there. And of course, it would never fly with the Politicians. But imagine this: if instead of spreading tens of billion$ around the globe to rid foreign nations of their problems, we spread it around the United States to rid ourselves of our problems...maybe cigs. wouldn't need to be $4.50 a pack and there'd be no need for another $.30 tax on beer.

I know, crazyness. After all, it IS our duty to piss away all our money "helping" others...

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I am. I am picturing stone-cold sober college kids on a Saturday night. And it makes me sad. Very sad.

BeyGon · 04-13-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa

Standard negotiating tactic. currently 2 cents. propose 30 cents. make a deal for 10 cents.

Where is the "good" part of this? F em. Cut spending first.

Shaun @ Tru6 · 04-13-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon

Where is the "good" part of this? F em. Cut spending first.

I'm not commenting on the idea of the tax, clearly it's bad, only that this is SOP to get what you want through negotiation in politics, business, etc.

I don't see any politicians cutting spending these days. Ever since Money became Speech, it talks a lot louder than the Public.