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trekkor 05-06-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3926876)
I've been nothing but serious.

I don't believe that. Why should I?

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You've played this as a game.
I never have.

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When presented with facts, you ignore them and then say they are false with nothing to back it up.
On these threads I see very few iron clad 'facts'. Theories, guesses, assumptions, proposals and far fetched science fiction, sure. If you give me hard evidence, I'm right here. This is nothing new.

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I've never seen such intellectual or spiritual dishonest[y] in my life.
That really has no meaning. Just another goofy BBS catch phrase.
You can say whatever you please. I'll not return insult. Fire awaySmileWavy

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I pity you.
Your replies indicate no feeling of pity what so ever.
You thrive on mockery, conceit and condescension.

I can see right through you.:o


KT

trekkor 05-06-2008 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frogger (Post 3926882)
Welcome to our world dealing with trekkor. :(


Dealing?

What have you contributed?
You've been one of the leading characters in mockery since...Well, ever since.


KT

IROC 05-06-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 3927100)
Did you really call everyone who believes the bible is factual stupid?

OK, here's my take. Maybe not stupid, but:

Blissfully ignorant?

Completely misguided, but generally well-meaning?

Delusional, but they wear their delusion like a badge of honor?

Completely oblivious to the world around them?

Chronically gullible?

Terminally credulous?

Emotionally vulnerable?

Three dimensional and they live in a swamp?*

Purple and clairvoyant?*

Obsequious and need to have their knees removed?*

* apologies to Steve Martin

Shaun @ Tru6 05-06-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3927841)
I don't believe that. Why should I?



I never have.



On these threads I see very few iron clad 'facts'. Theories, guesses, assumptions, proposals and far fetched science fiction, sure. If you give me hard evidence, I'm right here. This is nothing new.



That really has no meaning. Just another goofy BBS catch phrase.
You can say whatever you please. I'll not return insult. Fire awaySmileWavy



Your replies indicate no feeling of pity what so ever.
You thrive on mockery, conceit and condescension.

I can see right through you.:o


KT

Why should you? Because I did significant research to prove you wrong on the meaning of the Hebrew word for day as used in Genesis. I can't change the definitions of authentic words to fit your corruption of their meaning.

those are facts. And when presented with facts, you deny them just as Peter denied knowing Jesus.

Yes, I pity you because you seem so devout, so knowledgeable, but when tested, your understanding of the Bible is not based on the original text, rather it is based a man-made corruption of it.

trekkor 05-06-2008 05:01 PM

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I did significant research to prove you wrong
Listen to yourself...


KT

Shaun @ Tru6 05-06-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3927899)
Listen to yourself...


KT


How about you tell us all your facts that make up the basis for your understanding of Genesis.

You have never done that.

You've just said "No." when presented with facts.

But you never actually offer your own evidence to support your position.

Put up or shut up.

kstar 05-06-2008 05:17 PM

I just wanted to set the record straight WRT to Mike's post where he disingenuously, IMO, apologized for the hacking of Steve Martin's sacred (to me) Grandmother's Song. I have been offended as I hold these serious, yet humorous, words dearly. :D

I present to you, with the proper decorum deserved by the words themselves, Steve Martin's actual utterances transcribed from his Grammy winning album, "Let's Get Small".

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Thank you. You know folks, when I was a kid, I was pretty close to my grandmother and she used to sing a song to me when I was about this high. It always meant something to me and I'd like to do it for you right now because it does have meaning in today's world even . . . all these years, you know those, even during the "hip drug days" you know when everybody was supposed to be so cool and everything had double meanings and this little simple tune would keep coming back to me and I think it kinda guided me through those years and I'd like to do this song for you right now, I think it might have a little meaning for you, so here it goes.

Be courteous, kind and forgiving,
Be gentle and peaceful each day,
Be warm and human and grateful,
And have a good thing to say.

Be thoughtful and trustful and childlike,
Be witty and happy and wise,
Be honest and love all your neighbors,
Be obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant.

Be pompous, obese, and eat cactus,
Be dull, and boring, and omnipresent,
Criticize things you don't know about,
Be oblong and have your knees removed.

Be tasteless, rude, and offensive,
Live in a swamp and be three dimensional,
Put a live chicken in your underwear,
Get all excited and go to a yawning festival.

O.K. everybody!

Be courteous, kind and forgiving,
Be gentle and peaceful each day,
Be warm and human and grateful,
And have a good thing to say.

Be thoughtful and trustful and childlike,
(O.K. everybody on this!)
Be witty and happy and wise,
Be honest and love all your neighbors,
Be obsequious, purple, and clairvoyant.
(Let 'em hear you outside!)

Be pompous, obese, and eat cactus,
(Everybody sing!)
Be dull, and boring, and omnipresent,
Criticize things you don't know about,
Be oblong and have your knees removed.

(Ladies only)
Be tasteless, rude, and offensive,
(Now the men)
Live in a swamp and be three dimensional,
(Everybody)
Put a live chicken in your underwear,
Go into a closet and suck eggs.

You guys are going to be on a record. Maybe - someday. Not mine of course.
As It is, was and will always be.

Best,

trekkor 05-06-2008 05:17 PM

I've mentioned it many times on this very thread.

Seventh day...



KT

Shaun @ Tru6 05-06-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3927933)
I've mentioned it many times on this very thread.

Seventh day...



KT


You have not shown the proof. You have not backed up your theory with supporting facts.

m21sniper 05-06-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sjf911 (Post 3926626)
Like I said. Where is the "burning bush"? Your fairy-tale god had no trouble manifesting himself to primitive and superstitious people in the past, many times. Does he have a case of stage fright? Maybe he has developed the divine equivalent of erectile dysfunction (ED). We can call it "impotence". He should pick up a prescription of Divine Viagra. You never know, it might help.

I don't see how this sort of deliberately incendiary language makes you look like anything but a total jerk-off.

This coming from a guy who is as religious as your shoe laces.

trekkor 05-06-2008 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 3927945)
You have not shown the proof. You have not backed up your theory with supporting facts.


I actually have.
You have no rebuttal.


KT

Shaun @ Tru6 05-06-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3927961)
I actually have.
You have no rebuttal.


KT

Post it again.

RPKESQ 05-06-2008 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=sammyg2;3927100]Did you really call everyone who believes the bible is factual stupid? QUOTE]

Well, let's try using standard definitions:

fact
1: a thing done: as aobsolete : FEAT b: CRIME <accessory after the fact> carchaic : ACTION 2archaic : PERFORMANCE, DOING3: the quality of being actual : ACTUALITY <a question of fact hinges on evidence>4 a: something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact> b: an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>5: a piece of information presented as having objective reality

fac•tu•al
1 : of or relating to facts <a factual error> 2 : restricted to or based on fact <a factual statement>

stu•pid
1 a: slow of mind : OBTUSE b: given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c: lacking intelligence or reason : BRUTISH2: dulled in feeling or sensation : TORPID <still stupid from the sedative>3: marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : SENSELESS <a stupid decision>


So then, factual stupidity is the ignorance created or perpetuated by either not knowing facts or ignoring them.

Please (using the definition of the word "fact") post the list of facts found in the bible (especially in the New Testament). Now look at historical and archeological evidence to find the list of facts from the NT of the bible that is supported by collaborating evidence from other sources. Surprise! There is none.

So people who believe in any religious text as factual are factually stupid by definition. But I firmly support your decision to go through life like this, as long as I don't have to follow your path or kowtow to your ignorance.

sjf911 05-06-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 3927948)
I don't see how this sort of deliberately incendiary language makes you look like anything but a total jerk-off.

This coming from a guy who is as religious as your shoe laces.

You caught me. I am a closet pyromaniac.

frogger 05-06-2008 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3927847)
Dealing?

What have you contributed?
You've been one of the leading characters in mockery since...Well, ever since.


KT

You ignored my contributions, dismissing everything I have posted out of hand. You have done the same to others. You simply claim "guesses" and go on with your fantasy world. I feel there is little to be gained at this point other than mocking you. You are beyond reason. Oh well.

m21sniper 05-06-2008 06:10 PM

At least scream "fire in the hole" next time. :D

frogger 05-06-2008 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 3927961)
I actually have.

No, you haven't. Ever.

snowman 05-06-2008 08:18 PM

What a bunch of mindless crap. And I mean that for every single post since my last one.

Science has NO, not a single bit of evidence that can support creation, our creation and subsequent evolution.

Religion has, as a FACT, someone who was dead for 3 days and arose from the dead. Witnessed by numerous people, documented, in writing, in the bible. Tis biblical information is far more factual than conjecture of some very biased people.

So what do we have?

Science 0
Religion +1

And any thinking, individual, especially a scientist, can summarize that there is more evidence that religion is the basis for creation, than science has, or is likely to have.

Only the fags seem to have a hard on for religion. This is logical since all religions deem them sinners, condemned to hell. Their only hope is that religion is wrong. Consequently their views are irrelevant because they are biased, they cannot give a non biased opinion.

Bottom line. Unbiased, scientific observation shows evidence of a God. There is no evidence to counter this view. There is not even a theory to counter this view.

So we have real scientists for factual investigatgion of our presence here, which must include ID, both religious creation ID and the other science based ID. We have real scientists, who, as a consequence of their work, their dealings with mother nature, their observations of nature, who know that only some intelligent being is responsible for our being here.

We also have a bunch of fags, wishing for forgiveness, or wishing that there is no God, but having no other basis, reject ID and even science based ID. They are scared, very scared, consequently their opinions are worthless.

nostatic 05-06-2008 08:22 PM

snow, knock off the n-word and f-word nonsense. We keep you around because you can be a hoot, but that crap is getting old and remains offensive.

snowman 05-06-2008 08:31 PM

Nothing is more offensive than calling the bible a fairy tale. That is a fact and millions, thats millions of people are offended by people calling it a fairy tale, especially by fairy nice people.

The number and types of anti religious people on this site is enough for huge numbers of everyday people to be very offended. They can dish it out but not take it? I assume that if you are to be fair you would also call on those people to quiet down their extremely offensive comments as well.


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