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Moses 04-28-2008 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 3913290)
Moses, that's good.

Just curious, who had it? Your daughter or the teacher?

My daughter had it. The teacher forgot to record her grade, so gave her a 0.

the 04-28-2008 08:54 PM

That's good news!

But how did your daughter get it back, without her knowing it?!?

Laneco 04-28-2008 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3913013)
PS, Angela, I am going to kill you and take that damn flat six 550 in your avatar, that is my ultimate car

Bring help Tobra- I'm kinda feisty! I throw stuff too - very good aim! :D

Moses - good to hear this worked out for your daughter - she sounds like a great young lady.

angela

M.D. Holloway 04-28-2008 08:59 PM

This is why kids don't get into science or math - seems like science and math teachers are either suffering fools or azzholes. Rare is the teacher who will actually teach and inspire these disciplines. Sad actually. I hope your lil girl sees past this moron.

Moses 04-28-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 3913524)
That's good news!

But how did your daughter get it back, without her knowing it?!?

She has a 4" binder full of returned chem work. When she went through it page by page she found it.

Dueller 04-28-2008 09:06 PM

Glad she found it...now she can handle the teacher herself knowing she had the support of dad all along.

You talking about her lightening her load made me think how hard I've been on the twins of late...but they're going thru early senior-itis and a bit too consumed with enjoying themselves. OTOH one of them scored a 30 on her ACT. Don't know what to do about the one who only scored a 22...and racked up a bunch of C's this 9 weeks.

Oh well...good news for daddy's lil princess, M.

aap1966 04-28-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3913274)
She told me she wanted to get as much work done as she could before "Top Gear" comes on.


Proof positive the kid's on the right track.

KFC911 04-29-2008 03:03 AM

Moses, that's excellent news! Does the teacher know she found the assignment? If not, do you want to have some "fun" teaching that SOB a lesson he'll likely never forget...hint, hint :)?

Joeaksa 04-29-2008 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 3913772)
Moses, that's excellent news! Does the teacher know she found the assignment? If not, do you want to have some "fun" teaching that SOB a lesson he'll likely never forget...hint, hint :)?

Agreed but any meeting with anyone from the school needs to be with others with you. Like Todd said, HR will never meet with you with less than 3 people. Do the same yourself and hopefully have another students parent with you.

If its your wife they can say that the two of you were biased, but with another students parent that goes out the window and helps your situation should something come up.

KFC911 04-29-2008 04:57 AM

I was thinking along the lines of giving the teacher all the rope he wants now that the "found assignment" (i.e. the noose) is in Moses' hands now. Let him stretch the rope in front of his administration, then produce the "noose" and watch him squirm :).

ps: The more watching, the better imo...

berettafan 04-29-2008 06:26 AM

What grade had the teacher put on the paper?

Tobra 04-29-2008 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3913493)
My daughter had it. The teacher forgot to record her grade, so gave her a 0.

so it was his fault, that is a shocker

You should still put the hammer down on this douche, in about 3 weeks. Did he ding her for it being late? Seriously, that guy needs to go.(Is it a guy?)

Angela, I will have my wife take you out, she is from Cut'n'Shoot, TX and could almost certainly take my narrow ass apart(or that is what her Golden Gloves champ brother, with personal experience, says), but then I have to get the thing away from her:(

Moses 04-29-2008 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 3913914)
What grade had the teacher put on the paper?

It's an "A". The point is that her 10 page handwritten work was going to be disregarded because the teacher forgot to enter her grade in his gradebook.

I'm not finished with this guy. Every two or three weeks there is a huge project like this one. He will typically grade one or two papers himself (always very harshly). The rest of the papers are graded by a TA (senior). The TA graded papers all get 100% regardless of the quality of work. Some students don't go through all the work and just submit cursory answers and still get 100% from the TA. The few "unlucky" kids who have the teacher grade their papers get hit hard. My daughter was one of the unfortunate ones a few weeks ago. I looked at her paper and I was inpressed with the quality and clarity of her work. She made a few errors to be sure, but the overall quality and completeness of the work was impressive. It was clear she understood the material. She got a "D" on that assignment.

I have no problem with tough standards, but I think they must be uniform. The teacher and I are going to have a philosophical discussion on proper educational standards.

Tobra 04-29-2008 06:53 AM

Personally, I would take this MFer to the mat, go through him, the principal, school superintendant on up the ladder until I was standing in Swarzenegger's office trying to put this teacher out of a job, he should be working in a 7-11 somewhere

stomachmonkey 04-29-2008 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Moses (Post 3913937)
It's an "A". The point is that her 10 page handwritten work was going to be disregarded because the teacher forgot to enter her grade in his gradebook.

I'm not finished with this guy. Every two or three weeks there is a huge project like this one. He will typically grade one or two papers himself (always very harshly). The rest of the papers are graded by a TA (senior). The TA graded papers all get 100% regardless of the quality of work. Some students don't go through all the work and just submit cursory answers and still get 100% from the TA. The few "unlucky" kids who have the teacher grade their papers get hit hard. My daughter was one of the unfortunate ones a few weeks ago. I looked at her paper and I was inpressed with the quality and clarity of her work. She made a few errors to be sure, but the overall quality and completeness of the work was impressive. It was clear she understood the material. She got a "D" on that assignment.

I have no problem with tough standards, but I think they must be uniform. The teacher and I are going to have a philosophical discussion on proper educational standards.

Moses, my mother took out a couple of tenured teachers during her time. Not an easy thing to do but some of them just need to go.

I think you need to get together with some other parents and present a united front.

One or two parents are easy for the administration to ignore, specially this late in the year.

Get half the classes parents to show up and now the admin has a real situation.

This teacher sounds either lazy, incompetent, or psychotic. Needs to go.

Good luck.

KFC911 04-29-2008 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 3913961)
Personally, I would take this MFer to the mat, go through him, the principal, school superintendant on up the ladder until I was standing in Swarzenegger's office trying to put this teacher out of a job, he should be working in a 7-11 somewhere

Yep :)!!!

nostatic 04-29-2008 08:09 AM

actually, I would wait until the final grades are in the registrars office, then take him on.

vash 04-29-2008 08:43 AM

right on moses!!!! now was she cool when she presented the paper to the teach? or did she slam it on his desk with a "told you mother effer...!"

i have 15 years left at this gig...then i am going to teach math and maybe a science.

Zeke 04-29-2008 08:48 AM

The girl here may have something to say about this. Maybe she should be allowed to finish the class and then decide whether it's worth HER time to proceed. I agree the monster should be slain, but....

Todd is probably right. And other parents are needed, as mentioned. Ever tried to get a group together and cooperate? It just doesn't happen anymore. In a stroke of luck, one might find a few parents in the parent/teacher association (I don't know what they call them these days; they used to be just that, the PTA) that have had or have a student in this lizard's class. And, they would have to have had a similar experience. You sure aren't gonna get any cooperation from the kids that skated by on the TA's grading.

This whole thing stinks. I've had my dealings with teachers when my step kids were in school. I've talked about it here before. At the risk of offending any teachers among us, I found the "profession" to be somewhat of a joke. It was then that I moved the kids to private schools and things went much better for all.

biosurfer1 04-29-2008 09:00 AM

another glaring problem that the teacher might have a hard time explaining is why, in his gradebook, does everyone seem to have 100% except for the ones he graded? He will probably pawn it off on the TA, but it doesnt explain why he let it go/didn't notice since last fall


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