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(Submitted for comment. Personally, I'm not sure what to make of this. I don't doubt that it happened. Rather, I'm just thinking about what it suggests. For example it's pretty obvious that we don't know as much about death as most of us thought. As I mentioned on another thread, I was with my Dad when he passed away last month, and somewhat naturally I've been pondering the concept of death recently. This story flies in the face of what I experienced in that situation. It also suggests that some of the miracles described in the Bible may not be as far-fetched as many maintain. Certainly not common, but also not outside the realm of possibility. Hmmmm....)
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A West Virginia woman was being transferred to the Cleveland Clinic after walking the line between life and death. Doctors are calling Val Thomas a medical miracle. They said they can't explain how she is alive. They said Thomas suffered two heart attacks and had no brain waves for more than 17 hours. At about 1:30 a.m. Saturday, her heart stopped and she had no pulse. A respiratory machine kept her breathing and rigor mortis had set in, doctors said. "Her skin had already started to harden and her fingers curled. Death had set in," said son Jim Thomas. They rushed her to a West Virginia hospital. Doctors put Thomas on a special machine which induces hypothermia. The treatment involves lowering the body temperature for up to 24 hours before warming a patient up. After that procedure, her heart stopped again. "She had no neurological function," said Dr. Kevin Eggleston. Her family said goodbye and doctors removed all the tubes. However, Thomas was kept on a ventilator a little while longer as an organ donor issue was discussed. Ten minutes later the woman woke up and started talking. "She (nurse) said, 'I'm so sorry Mrs. Thomas.' And mom said, 'That's OK honey. That's OK," Jim Thomas said. Val Thomas and her family strongly believe that the Lord granted them their miracle and they want everyone to know. "I know God has something in store for me, another purpose. I don't know what it is but I'm sure he'll tell me," she said. She was taken to the Cleveland Clinic for specialist to check her out. Doctors said amazingly she has no blockage and will be fine.
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No brain activity for 17 hours followed by a complete recovery? Most likely the electroencephalogragh was not working properly... oops.
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Ohhh Moses go ahead blame it on a malfunction of scientific technology to detect the brain waves that were there.
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![]() The only reason I make fun is because the outcome was joyous. I never would if it had tunred out otherwise. I'm with Sniper (again, twice in one day?!) Its an overused expression but this one sounds like "miracle" to me. God Bless her, I hope she uses every added day to good result.
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Seems like it would be prudent to get all the facts before declaring a miracle from a news report, yes?
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I wouldn't be too impressed by the "cold, hard skin" or "curled fingers". You'll see that nearly every day in an acute care facility.
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"treat the patient, not the machine" was told to me early on. Still pretty wild about the hardening of the skin and curling of fingers.
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Sorry!! This is all that comes to mind and I know its really wrong. Sorry!!
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