Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3967070)

Here is the real apology.

Dear PPOT Left wing lunatics,

I realize that for some time now I have confused & befuddled you by the use of facts. I realize now that facts are totally foreign to you and that in your world, all that really matters is claims and feelings. For you, facts only serve to confuse your reliance on feelings & claims and are therefore disregarded as inferior to claims and feelings. In the future I will try to place warnings in all posts where facts are used to make a point, in hopes of preventing the overtaxing of your meager brains. With this new approach there should be fewer confused PPOT lefties pounding on their keyboards, staring blankly at their screens while drooling on the keyboards or making psychotic, threatening posts & pms. Remember. the most important thing is that we all get a bong.

Sincerely,
Mule

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 3967097)

First three petition signitories from the fine State of Alabama:

H. William Ahrenholz - deceased
Oscar Richard Ainsworth, PhD - nothing on the internet Lie!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Oscar+Richard+Ainsworth%2C+PhD&btnG =Google+Search
http://www.genealogy.ams.org/id.php?id=17414&fChrono=1
John H. van Aken - sells boating supplies Appears to be another lie.
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&hl=en&suggon=0&q=John+H.+Van+Aken&bt nG=Search


I'm sure the quality of these "scientist" signatures is much better than my quick "fact" check.

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3967135)

H. William Ahrenholz - deceased
Oscar Richard Ainsworth, PhD - nothing on the internet Lie!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
http://www.genealogy.ams.org/id.php?id=17414&fChrono=1
John H. van Aken - sells boating supplies Appears to be another lie.
http://www.google.com/search?num=30&...en&btnG=Search



Here's the link with all the signers. Alabama had 485, California, 3,709.
Whoops, up. side ya' head
I said whoops up side ya' head.
Punked!

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3967075)

That's a fairly ignorant statement. My diesel can run on bio fuel, free of cost if I get in good with a local restaurant. I fail to see the scam there.

Originally Posted by carnutzzz (Post 3967314)

Local restaurants won't supply America the 21 million gallons of diesel it consumes per day. Burning fryer grease is a novelty, not an energy solution. Nifty as it may be.

I believe he was referring to corn anyways. The scam is that you burn more fossil fuel per gallon with corn than you do a petroleum product.

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3967396)

There are many cars here in this big city that are burning vegetable oil from various sources. There was a big Dodge pickup for sale near here that got 22 mpg. on peanut oil. Needless to say, that vehicle didn't last a week for sale before it was bought. So it's not so novel, and yes, it is one of many energy solutions.

The scam is the petroleum products - at least it is today. No one says ethanol is better than gasoline. It is simply an alternative to gasoline - a very good alternative because, just like in the Lotus video, if the engine management is reprogrammed, the car can get virtually the same mileage with a good amount more power.

Originally Posted by Normy (Post 3965895)

-You know, you Rebuplicans are right in the end! We need MORE oil! Lets drill the crap out of the ANWAR. And who needs any of the other National wildlife refuges? Lets drill them too!

N~

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 3967396)

There are many cars here in this big city that are burning vegetable oil from various sources. There was a big Dodge pickup for sale near here that got 22 mpg. on peanut oil. Needless to say, that vehicle didn't last a week for sale before it was bought. So it's not so novel, and yes, it is one of many energy solutions.

The scam is the petroleum products - at least it is today. No one says ethanol is better than gasoline. It is simply an alternative to gasoline - a very good alternative because, just like in the Lotus video, if the engine management is reprogrammed, the car can get virtually the same mileage with a good amount more power.

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 3967245)

Ainsworth you posted received a PhD from Berkley in 1952. Nothing about Alabama and do you even know what his degree is in (Math?) and if he's alive today?

The van Aken link you posted also missed the check to see if this character is in Alabama and what he does. Try this link: http://chandlers.near-2-u.com/boating/USA/John-H-Van-Aken-Co.-Inc-43.htm
or maybe he's a South African, Honorary Consul General, located in Mobile, AL: http://www.mobilechamber.com/consularcorp.asp

Once again, you...wait for it...

http://www.horsesass.org/wp-content/uploads/fail.JPG

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3966793)

Let's try this again:
Algore makes it up, 31,000 scientists disagree & you guys want to give the benefit of the doubt to Algore? Just when you think you've seen it all!

Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 3967768)

Al kind of got on the boat late. I thought that Dottore made the point well that the petition was skewed.

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3967686)

I can guarantee you she's a democrat, probably an Obama supporter.
So how many Oscar Richard Ainsworth, PhD's do you think there are 10, 20, 100?

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3967623)

Apparently. Didn't you claim 45 mpg with an ML320?

Originally Posted by carnutzzz (Post 3967436)

Not many cars in this big city (Atlanta).

Originally Posted by carnutzzz (Post 3967436)

Ethanol is not an alternative to petroleum products because it takes petroleum products to create and distribute it. Cradle to grave, it's a waste.

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 3967811)

Absolutely conjecture. If you run the percentages on air headed college students, are they mostly Republican?