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Porsche virgin 06-25-2008 12:31 PM

1981 supercar performance - not so super anymore
 
I stumbled across this over at VWVortex. It is from a Popular Mechanics supercar test back in 1981.

We've come a long way. There are probably a dozen SUVs that are faster (and get better gas mileage) in the quarter mile than the fastest car on this list.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1214425708.jpg

Porsche-O-Phile 06-25-2008 12:33 PM

It's all factors - not just 1/4 mile.

Put most SUVs on the slalom and they'll finish in about a week and a half - if they don't roll.

Nice to see the 931 getting some love on that list. :)

livi 06-25-2008 12:39 PM

I canīt see the SC there. It would have beaten them all. :D

legion 06-25-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4023687)
Nice to see the 931 getting some love on that list. :)

And the 951 has twice the horsepower of a 931, better gas mileage, and a wider wheelbase with better brakes...

Jim Richards 06-25-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 4023701)
I canīt see the SC there. It would have beaten them all. :D

Right! Doesn't SC stand for SuperCar? Or was it Superior Car? Or was it Slow Car? :p

livi 06-25-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 4023709)
Right! Doesn't SC stand for SuperCar? Or was it Superior Car? Or was it Slow Car? :p

SubCarrera.

the 06-25-2008 12:57 PM

the late 70s and early 80s were dark days for performance cars.

the 911SC was really a very rare exception. It was a performance standout for US legal cars.

MikeSid 06-25-2008 01:03 PM

Pretty capricious list. They include a M1, Countach, F512, and a Volante, but the representative Porsches were a 928 and 931??

I think a ROW 930 from 1980 would have smoked every car on that list.

VincentVega 06-25-2008 01:10 PM

GRM had a cool article a few years ago comparing a few classics, including a 356, to a Honda minivan. IIRC the Honda was faster, handled/stopped better ....

svandamme 06-25-2008 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 4023763)
Pretty capricious list. They include a M1, Countach, F512, and a Volante, but the representative Porsches were a 928 and 931??

I think a ROW 930 from 1980 would have smoked every car on that list.

i think the list depends on available data
and if they didn't do road testing on the 930 in 1980, or they didn't do a quarter mile , it's not in the list

still, that 931 did pretty good, only lost .4 of a second on a lap
despite the 44 horses handicap
and with 50% better milage, so in endurance terms, that Ferrari would not have beaten it...it would simply not have been able to out run the 931 enough to not loose it's lead in the pits

svandamme 06-25-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 4023707)
And the 951 has twice the horsepower of a 931, better gas mileage, and a wider wheelbase with better brakes...

twice???

220 hp is not double of 170

Shawn 357 06-25-2008 02:53 PM

It is funny that my daily driver truck can smoke every car on the list (I have done quite a bit to it). Truth be told it is a little disapointing to read that list and see that my dream car, The Countach, really doesn't stack up to new cars. I know 1/4 mile time isn't everything but 14.994? I guess it would be like driving my Wife's Accord with a few more blind spots:)

the 06-25-2008 03:00 PM

That's "super car" performance, the performance of "regular" cars was much worse!

I remember my new '81 BMW 320i, was considered a pretty hot performance sedan back in the day. It did 0-60 in 11.1 seconds! (12.1 with an automatic).

Everyone pretty much thought that smog and safety had killed high performance cars forever.

If you would have told someone in 1981 that in 2008 your average family sedan (i.e., a Honda Accord) or minivan would have 265+ hp, that there would be dozens of cars and trucks available for sale in the US with 400-500 hp, and that average cars would be doing 60 in the 6 second range, they would have said you were absolutely nuts.

DanielDudley 06-25-2008 03:12 PM

All of those cars top 140 MPH. Some by a considerable margin.

legion 06-25-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 4023820)
twice???

220 hp is not double of 170

I was under the impression that the U.S. spec 931 made 110 hp and the U.S. spec base 924 made 87 hp.

Jeff Higgins 06-25-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 4023709)
Right! Doesn't SC stand for SuperCar? Or was it Superior Car? Or was it Slow Car? :p

Sorta Carrera.

m21sniper 06-25-2008 03:24 PM

Hmmm, my 83 928S has run a 13.6 at the local drag strip. An 81 5 speed ROW 928 is much faster than a high 15 second car. Those times are suspect at best.

the 06-25-2008 03:46 PM

I'm not sure you can compare an 83S or an 81ROW 928 with an 80 or 81 US 928.

creaturecat 06-25-2008 04:05 PM

11 mpg with the 928. Ouch!!

TerryH 06-25-2008 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 4023763)
Pretty capricious list. They include a M1, Countach, F512, and a Volante, but the representative Porsches were a 928 and 931??

I think a ROW 930 from 1980 would have smoked every car on that list.

Heck my ROW 911 from 1981 could beat that list in the 1/4. No turbo necessary. :)


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