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Danny_Ocean 06-30-2008 07:49 PM

Gas Buying Club? Not sure what the catch is...
 
Paragraph 3 has me a little http://myst5.com/images/suspicious.gif

http://www.mygallons.com/how_it_works.html

Joeaksa 06-30-2008 08:15 PM

Hmmm, wonder if its for real?

cstreit 06-30-2008 08:18 PM

I'm going to call foul. WHy? "Locations - Your MyGallons Card is accepted at all gas stations accepting USBank's Voyager cards."

Really so Mom&Pop in backwater Kentucky and a basic setup are members with electronic debiting?

Danny_Ocean 06-30-2008 08:19 PM

Apparently so. I found it from a news article link.

They don't say how much gas you can buy in advance. Could I buy 5000 gals. at today's prices?

Danny_Ocean 06-30-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 4034305)
I'm going to call foul. WHy? "Locations - Your MyGallons Card is accepted at all gas stations accepting USBank's Voyager cards."

Really so Mom&Pop in backwater Kentucky and a basic setup are members with electronic debiting?

Gotta input a zip code to see where the stations are located.

Porsche-O-Phile 06-30-2008 08:40 PM

That just links to the google database of gas stations. Something still smells kinda' fishy about this. . .

Danny_Ocean 06-30-2008 08:50 PM

Here's the article:

http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Releases/MyGallons+Provides+Americans+With+a+Solution+To+Fi ght+Rising+Gas+Prices/3781588.html

red-beard 07-01-2008 02:51 AM

I used to buy gas through Priceline, along with groceries and all sorts fo stuff, before they killed that part. I used to save at least 10%.

legion 07-01-2008 04:17 AM

This sounds earily like the program my local natural gas company has.

They allow you to "lock-in" gas prices at summer rates for the winter. If you bet wrong (and gas prices dropped), they hold you to the contract amount. Funny thing is, if you bet right (and gas prices went up), they assess a "market fluctuation fee" that is ALWAYS more than the actual cost of the gas. Bottom line is that you always end up paying more than market price with this program.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-01-2008 05:49 AM

Apply the Laws of Common Sense:

1. "If it sounds too good to be true. . ."

2. "If someone is trying to sell you something, it's NEVER in your best interests - it's in theirs"

Paco Anton 07-01-2008 09:19 AM

In fact this can be true if the company buys oil futures. Using financial derivatives such as futures you can buy oil at today's prices without taking delivery until a few months ahead. When the time comes you sell the futures instead of receiving the oil and use the money to pay for the increase in gas prices.

I am sure someone can explain this better than me :)

Danny_Ocean 07-01-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco Anton (Post 4035148)
In fact this can be true if the company buys oil futures. Using financial derivatives such as futures you can buy oil at today's prices without taking delivery until a few months ahead. When the time comes you sell the futures instead of receiving the oil and use the money to pay for the increase in gas prices.

I am sure someone can explain this better than me :)


That's what I figured, but after reading Para. 3, it seems they can adjust the price at will. They don't tell you up-front how much fuel you can purchase at one time. I'd just go ahead and buy all my fuel one year in advance, but something tells me they would not allow it.

Paco Anton 07-01-2008 10:36 AM

As I see it, you buy a definite amount of gas at "today" prices. Then they lock that amount in oil futures. Para #3 says that they do not take the risk of local price variations but will use a national average to compute prices and deduct gallons from your account.

The trick is that you need to buy up front a certain volume of gas gallons and they quote the gas price daily, so they can adjust their futures hedging formula.

If you think prices can't but go up it could save you a lot of money. However, if the prices go down you will end up buying at a higher prices than the rest.

Danny_Ocean 07-01-2008 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco Anton (Post 4035314)
If you think prices can't but go up it could save you a lot of money. However, if the prices go down you will end up buying at a higher prices than the rest.


True, true...but there's no indication gas prices will be going down here anytime soon... :(

Joeaksa 07-01-2008 12:12 PM

CEO of this company is on Fox News right now giving a good interview.

Por_sha911 07-01-2008 01:02 PM

This is in the Subscription and Services Agreement:
2.3 MYGALLONS reserves the right to limit, modify or discontinue the MYGALLONS Services at any time. WITHOUT LIMITING THE GENERALITY OF THE FOREGOING, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT MYGALLONS MAY CHANGE, AMEND AND RESCIND THE FEATURES, PRICING AND TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBSCRIPTION, THE MYGALLONS SERVICES OR ANY MYGALLONS SERVICES PACKAGE AT ANY TIME BY POSTING NOTICE ON THE MYGALLONS Network. If you are dissatisfied with any modification to the MYGALLONS Services, your sole remedy will be to terminate the MYGALLONS Services in the manner described in this Agreement.

Sounds to me like they will lock in a price until they decide to change it... :rolleyes:

Tidybuoy 07-01-2008 01:13 PM

Sounds just like oil speculation buying - what's the difference.

Maybe the speculators realize the bubble is going to pop and this is their creative form of down side protection.

widgeon13 07-01-2008 01:49 PM

Just shows how much margin is in the product and that we ARE getting screwed all along. Just what's needed another company to get a cut of the profits.

Fuch ME!!!!


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