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scottmandue 07-01-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4036043)
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So how did you get to be such an expert on their clientele?

m21sniper 07-01-2008 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 4036050)
So how did you get to be such an expert on their clientele?

What are you trying to say? Spit it out.

Let me guess, you are a Starbucks regular?

Danny_Ocean 07-01-2008 04:28 PM

Now where are all the Harley "poseurs" gonna hang?

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speedracing944 07-01-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 4036052)
Seems like another short-term strategy from big business. I would lower prices and tread water until the economy picks up. It seems like businesses never plan for variations in the economy. I know that we do here at Pelican...

-Wayne

So are you going to lower prices??? :) I will be putting in a big order soon to rebuild my engine.

Speedy:)

Shaun @ Tru6 07-01-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 4036052)
Seems like another short-term strategy from big business. I would lower prices and tread water until the economy picks up. It seems like businesses never plan for variations in the economy. I know that we do here at Pelican...

-Wayne

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Pazuzu 07-01-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4036036)
You know, the whole drive to the local Starbucks and biitch to your green peace leftist (or just trendy) buddies about how climate change is going to destroy mother earth as ya slug down $5.00 cups of coffee that ya could make at home for 1/10th the cost, also saving the fuel you used to drive your $30,000 "economical" hybrid there to begin with. All the while biitching about big business and the evil of corporate america while also simultaneously lining their very pockets with ridiculous profit margins to pay for a CEO's massive salary.

Starbucks just personifies many of the things in today's society that really, really, really piss me off.


You're aggression is wrongly placed. Starbucks is not what is wrong with the world, it's Starbucks CUSTOMERS that are what is wrong with the world. They're weak willed individuals anyways, letting some highly caffeinated coffee drive their lives.

I personally don't like Starbucks the company because they make an effort to drive locally owned businesses out and take their market share. Yes, that is pure capitalism, which i should like, but I guess I'm a bleeding heart in that i still would rather support my locally owned and run Ma and Pa businesses.

DARISC 07-01-2008 07:27 PM

I always associate Starbucks with yuppies. I ain't a yuppie so I'm not interested in hanging out there. And, anyway, as far as coffee goes, I can take it or leave it.

Rick Lee 07-01-2008 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 4036398)
You're aggression is wrongly placed. Starbucks is not what is wrong with the world, it's Starbucks CUSTOMERS that are what is wrong with the world. They're weak willed individuals anyways, letting some highly caffeinated coffee drive their lives.

Yes, I am weak willed. When I'm jonesing for a good coffee, am nowhere near home and don't feel like experimenting, I lose all self-control and go to Starbuck's. Someday I hope to have more friends like yourself who can help me help myself.

DARISC 07-01-2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4036474)
Yes, I am weak willed. When I'm jonesing for a good coffee, am nowhere near home and don't feel like experimenting, I lose all self-control and go to Starbuck's. Someday I hope to have more friends like yourself who can help me help myself.

You a yuppie?

mossguy 07-01-2008 07:36 PM

I believe that the proliferation and popularity of Starbucks Coffee Shops created a need, which opened opportunities for small businesses and individual entrepreneurs. I believe that the existence of Starbucks added more businesses to the economy than it subtracted.

Tom

rusnak 07-01-2008 07:38 PM

Starbuck's, McDonald's, Chili's, Applebee's, they have stated that they will grow by expanding internationally. I fail to see how this is a good long term plan, but you know, they ain't stooopid.

And, what's wrong with Ricardo Montalban? Should have maybe put RR in that crowd of endorsed conservative brand names.

89911 07-01-2008 07:41 PM

I've heard that StarBucks is a good employer that was very generous to its workers with healthcare packages. They may be closing stores, but the amount of money they have made over the past 10 years is staggering. It's like a popular nightclub, sometimes you have to ride the popularity while you can, make your money, and start bailing when the tide changes.

DARISC 07-01-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4036069)
What are you trying to say? Spit it out.

Let me guess, you are a Starbucks regular?

Hey hey hey!
Scottmandue!
He's a real
Starbuckaroo!
:D

Hey Sniper!
Hitch up yer diaper!
You ain't nuthin'
but a downbeat griper!
:D:D

Neilk 07-01-2008 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 4036052)
Seems like another short-term strategy from big business. I would lower prices and tread water until the economy picks up. It seems like businesses never plan for variations in the economy. I know that we do here at Pelican...

-Wayne


Isn't that a symptom of Wall Street's obsession with quarterly profits?

Pazuzu 07-01-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4036474)
Yes, I am weak willed. When I'm jonesing for a good coffee, am nowhere near home and don't feel like experimenting, I lose all self-control and go to Starbuck's. Someday I hope to have more friends like yourself who can help me help myself.

There ain't no gas stations around you? They all have coffee, and most of them now carry some kinda "gourmet" versions too. Same with the fast food joints.

You only want Starbucks because it's 2.5 times the caffeine, and you're body is addicted.

Rick Lee 07-01-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 4036533)
There ain't no gas stations around you? They all have coffee, and most of them now carry some kinda "gourmet" versions too. Same with the fast food joints.

You only want Starbucks because it's 2.5 times the caffeine, and you're body is addicted.

Yes, there's a Chevron next to the Starbuck's I sometimes go to. I'm pretty sure I know the difference between the coffee both serve and I'm happy to pay for the better stuff.

Pazuzu 07-01-2008 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4036542)
Yes, there's a Chevron next to the Starbuck's I sometimes go to. I'm pretty sure I know the difference between the coffee both serve and I'm happy to pay for the better stuff.

So...you do search out the local coffee shops, where they properly roast the beans, maintain water temperatures, are careful about grind size, and respect their customers wishes?

OK, I'm sorry, I guess it seems I'm attacking you, but I'm not. I just can't understand how someone can actually say that Starbuck's coffee is good. It's not good, in almost every sense of the chemistry and gastronomy of coffee.

I did not, however, accuse you of being a hippy. I don't think any hippies could afford Starbucks :p

Rick Lee 07-01-2008 08:21 PM

I just moved here in March and I'm not into exploring the finer coffee shops of Phoenix when the avg. daily temp. is 109 deg. When I come across the good European stuff I used to get when I lived there, I buy it. When I'm in a hurry and need a fix, there's almost always a Starbuck's nearby. I hate gas station, 7-11 and McDonald's coffee. Sure, some restaurants do it right, but most don't and I don't go to a restaurant for a cup of to-go coffee. I like Starbuck's just fine. FWIW, when I lived in VA we had a Wegman's next to our house. Their coffee was the best grocery store coffee I've ever had. But there are none out here. And the two grocery stores I go to here both have Starbuck's inside them.

Pazuzu 07-01-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4036592)
I just moved here in March and I'm not into exploring the finer coffee shops of Phoenix when the avg. daily temp. is 109 deg. When I come across the good European stuff I used to get when I lived there, I buy it. When I'm in a hurry and need a fix, there's almost always a Starbuck's nearby. I hate gas station, 7-11 and McDonald's coffee. Sure, some restaurants do it right, but most don't and I don't go to a restaurant for a cup of to-go coffee. I like Starbuck's just fine. FWIW, when I lived in VA we had a Wegman's next to our house. Their coffee was the best grocery store coffee I've ever had. But there are none out here. And the two grocery stores I go to here both have Starbuck's inside them.


Problem solved. Move to Tucson, I can give you the addresses and directions to a dozen good, locally owned coffee shops...and it's significantly cooler than in East L.A. (sorry, I mean, Phoenix :p )

Tobra 07-01-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4035977)
Starbucks is the poster child for many of the things wrong with America today IMO.

I wish they would all go bye-bye.

please expound on this opinion
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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 4036050)
So how did you get to be such an expert on their clientele?

He has been taking dipso's psychic power pills.

Personally, I never cared for starbucks coffee, always tastes burned to me. At home, I will make my coffee strong enought to take the enamel off the cup, so it is not too strong. Even take a thermos of home made to the Euro Sunday deals, and they have a starbucks right there.


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