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I don't want to hear any more whining from you IT workers. Bunch of sandbaggers...

Yahoo says you all make an average of $144k/yr in Silicon Valley. That's good coin!

http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-technology_it_s_where_the_jobs_are-435

Old 06-30-2008, 08:09 PM
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That's nearly double the $80,000 national average for tech jobs.
I'm still looking for the big stock-option windfall, where is it?
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:20 PM
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You need to take into account the living expense in SilVal.

I think the author is somewhat out-of-touch, though. I don't understand what he meant by..."

"Our members are having problems finding a number of qualified workers," he says. "The U.S. doesn't really allow foreign nationals to compete in the job marketplace -- we essentially tell them to go home to their own countries and to create competition there."

What kind of name is " Arik Hesseldahl?"
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I left my last job making a mere $95k. I guess I'm the bottom of the barrel. At least thats what my wife tells me.
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I've worked in IT since I graduated college in 1990 Its a good field. I am a little burned out though.
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I'm burned out too...I've been in it for 25 years, and an outsourcer will take over in approximately 33 days (but who's counting ). It would be a tremendous cut for me to move to the SilVal for that salary considering the cost of living. It's been a good career, but there is no way I would recommend someone getting into it now.
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I work in educational technology. No raise this year, averaged 2.3% since I started here in '98.

Of the $$ mentioned in the above posts, I'm not even half way to the smallest one.
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Its the cost of living in many of these places that kills you. I could at least double my salary by moving to the left coast but refuse to put up with the crap over there and the cost of living negates any real increase in salary.

May have the best of both worlds shortly, working for a SoCal company and commuting and being able to stay where I live now. Being paid SoCal salaries is a big jump up and staying out of Kalifornia makes things liveable.
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Man...that's double what I currently make.

Did I mention that my house cost $125k?
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Man...that's double what I currently make.

Did I mention that my house cost $125k?
I drove through Bloomington a few weeks ago.

You overpaid.
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I drove through Bloomington a few weeks ago.

You overpaid.
Doh!

Funny! BLM is a nice place though, really.
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Funny! BLM is a nice place though, really.
You're thinking of Bloomington, Indiana.
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Thats about right here in Denver, depending on what your specialty is.
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I've been in the IT business for 30 years, CIO 6 times always as a "fixer" when things are really in the toilet, done a number of consulting gigs around assessment of the screwed up mess that constitutes an "IS" shop in most companies and can sympathize with the burned out comments.
IS is the most miserable, crappy, stressful and horrible discipline there is...you are typically part of an internal service function that has expectations placed on it that are beyond belief....our clients want everything right now, for nothing. You have the loathsome mix of dealing with vendors for whom the carpetbagger's were the idol of good business practice, dealing with technology so fragile that I am amazed it works at all, dealing with introverted, highly technical people with skin thicknesses measured in nanometers and toes measured in light years, users who couldn't read a document to save their lives and ...just to make it special... attracts poor quality management as IS is not usually the vehicle for higher achievement in corporations, the good ones stay the heck away from IS so we get left with the dregs.

Having said all that, it pays the bills and the average salary ought to be higher to put up with the *hit that constitues the art that is IS. I'd never go in to the field again (my university discipline was physics) and I actively discourage anyone who will listen from going into IS....

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I've been in the IT business for 30 years, CIO 6 times always as a "fixer" when things are really in the toilet, done a number of consulting gigs around assessment of the screwed up mess that constitutes an "IS" shop in most companies and can sympathize with the burned out comments.
IS is the most miserable, crappy, stressful and horrible discipline there is...you are typically part of an internal service function that has expectations placed on it that are beyond belief....our clients want everything right now, for nothing. You have the loathsome mix of dealing with vendors for whom the carpetbaggers were the idol of good business practice, dealing with technology so fragile that I am amazed it works at all, dealing with introverted, highly technical people with skin thicknesses measured in nanometers and toes measured in light years, users who couldn't read a document to save their lives and ...just to make it special... attracts poor quality management as IS is not usually the vehicle for higher achievement in corporations, the good ones stay the heck away from IS so we get left with the dregs.

Having said all that, it pays the bills and the average salary ought to be higher to put up with the *hit that constitutes the art that is IS. I'd never go in to the field again (my university discipline was physics) and I actively discourage anyone who will listen from going into IS....

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I've been doing "networking" (cisco routers, switches, firewalls, etc...) for about 9 years now. I like it, but it's definitely no paradise. It depends upon what you're doing and who your "customers" are. I think my area is much, much easier than the PC/Server/Desktop/application side.
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