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Arizona_928 07-16-2008 02:04 PM

i need help.. stupid eBay
 
i was working on my car today and the mailman came and i got the new badge i bought on eBay... when i finally got around to opening it i noticed it was a cheap fake!!! the whole thing was in a gold paint and i noticed that the red stripes are PINK! then i compared it and the eBay one is formed and the real one is stamped... needless to say i feel pretty flipping cheated. is their anyway to send it back, or leave negative feedback without it ruining my 100%?

i've also thought about contacting porsche as they are not selling real porsche parts! :D

sammyg2 07-16-2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 4064970)
i was working on my car today and the mailman came and i got the new badge i bought on eBay... when i finally got around to opening it i noticed it was a cheap fake!!! the whole thing was in a gold paint and i noticed that the red stripes are PINK! then i compared it and the eBay one is formed and the real one is stamped... needless to say i feel pretty flipping cheated. is their anyway to send it back, or leave negative feedback without it ruining my 100%?

i've also thought about contacting porsche as they are not selling real porsche parts! :D

contact the seller and ask him these questions first. Maybe you can ship it back and get your money back. if he says no way or doesn't respond (give him enough time) then you can report him to e-bay and do negative feedback.

Arizona_928 07-16-2008 02:37 PM

yeah what really gets me is he charged 5.00 for shipping and it only cost 1.66$.

can i make a claim with ebay that says he has to pay the differnece in the REAL shipping cost?

kstar 07-16-2008 02:41 PM

Under the new feedback system, he can't leave you negative feedback.

sammyg2 07-16-2008 02:43 PM

No. Usually that charge is understood to be shipping and handling. he gave you a price and you accepted and paid it, that's a contract. getting something that is fake or not what was decribed is a different story.
Contact the seller! Most people on e-bay are fairly reasonable.

Porsche 07-16-2008 02:45 PM

Get Porsche to confirm that it is a fake in writing, then escalate it straight to Paypal as a dispute, claiming counterfeit goods, and Paypal should quarantine money in the seller's Paypal account to reimburse - don't bother contacting the seller, just go straight to Paypal. I know people who've done this for other counterfeit goods with good results.

on2wheels52 07-16-2008 02:46 PM

I think for a lot of ebay sellers the shipping overcharge is most of the profit, it's ok if you get the item at a resonable price.
Jim

kstar 07-16-2008 02:47 PM

Sammy's correct; give the guy a chance to make it good, IMO.

stomachmonkey 07-16-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 4065038)
yeah what really gets me is he charged 5.00 for shipping and it only cost 1.66$.

can i make a claim with ebay that says he has to pay the differnece in the REAL shipping cost?

Shipping is a scam on ebay.

ebay does not get a vig on the shipping cost, only the sale and listing fees.

So tons of people sell items for $1.00 and charge $30.00 for shipping to save on the "commision"

$5 for shipping with an actual cost of $1.66 is borderline not terrible.

There is a little time and effort involved with S/H and if it's a business you need to consider it a cost.

Personally when I sell I only charge exactly what it will cost.

If I do an estimated and it's way out of whack, say estimated $10 and it actually cost $5 i'll refund the diff.

If the diff is only a buck or two I won't and I tell all my buyers that upfront.

So far everyone has been ok with it.

Porsche 07-16-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kstarnes (Post 4065066)
Sammy's correct; give the guy a chance to make it good, IMO.

If you tip off the seller, the seller may move all his funds out of his Paypal account.

If you read the fine print in Paypal regarding disputes, it states that if there are funds in the Paypal account they will use it to reimburse buyers, but if there are no funds, the fine print states it will be left up to Paypal's discretion whether to reimburse or not.

Of course, I am assuming the transaction is via Paypal - may not be. In the end, it's up to you.

Arizona_928 07-16-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche (Post 4065058)
Get Porsche to confirm that it is a fake in writing, then escalate it straight to Paypal as a dispute, claiming counterfeit goods, and Paypal should quarantine money in the seller's Paypal account to reimburse - don't bother contacting the seller, just go straight to Paypal. I know people who've done this for other counterfeit goods with good results.



ok so to get the letter.. should i go to the parts department at my dealer to get the letter or a good independent p car shop?

paypal is finally gonna be my friend!! :eek:

Arizona_928 07-16-2008 03:23 PM

ok called my porsche dealer and they are not touching this with a ten foot pole.!!! they said basicly if it has the same part number as a genuine porsche part then for all they are concerned it's real.... and i made my self sound like an arse while talking to 5 different repersentatives..finally got connected to the head boss guy"idk" and said he wouldn't get any of his reps involved in this either!


but it's obvisious fake! every little detail on the real one is missed on the fake, the fake isn't even stamped, even is more domed and for godssakes it's ******* PINK!!!!!!!

Arizona_928 07-16-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kstarnes (Post 4065051)
Under the new feedback system, he can't leave you negative feedback.

really...

widgeon13 07-16-2008 03:27 PM

Post a pic so we can see what it looks like.

Arizona_928 07-16-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts (Post 4065161)
It might actually not be a "fake", as I have seen some really crappy new authentic ones come across my desk. Besides, there isn't enough of a demand to make "fake" ones. The original manufacturers that make them for Porsche and sell them to Porsche also sell them on the aftermarket (technically illegal). So, the part is exactly the same as the new ones. Some of the new ones look pretty bad to me (pinkish) too.

-Wayne

that explains why no one at my dealership would do anything about it.... let alone give me an explanation...
and from the box it came in it is obiuosly "aftermarket"...

ohh, Wayne i hope your not selling those NEW ones, they are pretty ugly and would rather go with the shaved look then put IT on my hood. :(

Joeaksa 07-16-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AZ_porschekid (Post 4065038)
yeah what really gets me is he charged 5.00 for shipping and it only cost 1.66$.

can i make a claim with ebay that says he has to pay the differnece in the REAL shipping cost?

I just did this with some asswippe who charged me for USPS Priority and then shipped it FedEx ground! The claim comment time ends today and cannot wait to go after these jerks.

Course Fleabay could care less...

Arizona_928 07-16-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 4065373)

Course Fleabay could care less...

as long as they get their money they're happy..... :rolleyes:


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