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Buckterrier 07-31-2008 06:51 AM

ExxonMobil 2Q profits sets US record, should we even go there?
 
But it's only 8% ROI :rolleyes:

onewhippedpuppy 07-31-2008 06:53 AM

Supply and demand!!!!

legion 07-31-2008 06:56 AM

So what?

Do you want them to stop earning a profit?

cstreit 07-31-2008 06:59 AM

Well we can't really be sure that 8% is their TRUE profit margin, there's a lot of shenanigans that go on during the accounting process I'm sure. However even if it's twice that, 16% it's a margin that many businesses wouldn't be to pleased with.

I think their practices are somewhat cloak-and-dagger and probably not above-board at all, but we should address that rather than the relative volume of money involved...

Rick Lee 07-31-2008 07:12 AM

Did you feel sorry for them when they were losing money? Would you even think of starting a business with an 8-10% profit margin?

Buckterrier 07-31-2008 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4093062)
Supply and demand!!!!

The supply, or lack there of, is artificially generated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4093111)
Did you feel sorry for them when they were losing money? Would you even think of starting a business with an 8-10% profit margin?

If sales were $240 billion yes.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-31-2008 08:18 AM

8% ROI is actually starting to look pretty good by comparison.

When everything else out there is down 10% or 15%, +8% is great.

Superman 07-31-2008 08:31 AM

This is great news. Corporate profits are up. Oil profits are up. Executive compensation is up. I heard this morning on the news that the jumbo real estate market ($25.M and up), at least in Seattle, is up. High end cars are doing fine.

The criticism should go to ordinary folks like you and me. Well, me at least. Real wages have fallen during the same period. Inflation has risen and will shortly be getting out of hand. So.......rich folks are holding up their end of the bargain. It's the "regular Joes" who are failing to perform. Economically.

cairns 07-31-2008 08:35 AM

Good on them!! Too bad I didn't buy their stock. Then even a little guy like me could have shared a piece of that pie. Supe it sounds like you should have too. If you don't perform economically they're not going to let you in Costco- they only accept the rich you know.

Rick Lee 07-31-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 4093245)
This is great news. Corporate profits are up. Oil profits are up. Executive compensation is up. I heard this morning on the news that the jumbo real estate market ($25.M and up), at least in Seattle, is up. High end cars are doing fine.

The criticism should go to ordinary folks like you and me. Well, me at least. Real wages have fallen during the same period. Inflation has risen and will shortly be getting out of hand. So.......rich folks are holding up their end of the bargain. It's the "regular Joes" who are failing to perform. Economically.

For once I absolutely agree with you. Except you're being sarcastic and I am not.

Hugh R 07-31-2008 08:48 AM

I'd rather them make 8% than me not be able to buy gas!!

kstar 07-31-2008 08:59 AM

XOM is probably one of, if not the, most widely held stocks.

Most of us probably hold some of it in a fund or 401k we own.

"We" are big oil. :)

Below are some financial stats on two public companies, one is XOM and one is AAPL.

Which one should be "reeled" in by the Feds?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1217523561.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1217523582.jpg

jyl 07-31-2008 09:52 AM

XOM is down -13% YTD.

kstar 07-31-2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4093451)
XOM is down -13% YTD.

And AAPL is down about 18% YTD.

They're certainly different companies, but it's very difficult, IMO, to make money in the very short term on any stock. These two are no exception.

Long terms holders of XOM have done well considering the mature nature of the company and it's sheer size.

ed martin 07-31-2008 10:53 AM

My father was an Exxon attorney for forty years plus. Never talked about what he did exactly, and never gave me much advice. When I had my struggling furniture business (partnership horror story) the only advice he really gave me was " There is nothing fair about business." Exxon/Mobile is a business. A really big business.

A really successful friend of mine would always say, "Don't be jealous of peoples' success, just copy what they do." Instead of fretting about a corporations success, wouldn't it smarter to get on board and invest? I've heard it said that "It's not how much you make (wages), it's how you invest it."

cairns 07-31-2008 12:08 PM

Ed you got some darn good advice. Absolutely true.

widgeon13 07-31-2008 12:43 PM

Obama wants to tax the big oil companies because it's what the little guy wants to hear and will vote for.

sammyg2 07-31-2008 02:16 PM

Yahoo finance lists XOM's net profit margin for the quarter at 10.85% from $389 billion in revenue.

Yahoo finance lists Microsoft's net profit margin for the quarter at 29.26% from $60 billion in revenue.


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