I'm thankful for the ribbed swimsuit.

When we don't have to find out the truth from whistleblowers, it will be.

A past Space Shuttle ScO, admits ET's are Real. And this ScO has seen them, himself with another witness!

http://www.stargate-chronicles.com/release_mitchell.html


Those Who Know

The following section contains quotes from famous and respected scientists, politicians and astronauts regarding UFO and ET phenomena.

I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on earth."

President Harry S. Truman, 1950.
"If I become President, I'll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and scientists. I am convinced that UFOs exist because I have seen one."

President Jimmy Carter during his Presidential campaign.
What happened after he was elected? Absolutely nothing. What stopped him?

"In the firm belief that the American public deserves a better explanation than that thus far given by the Air Force, I strongly recommend that there be a committee investigation of the UFO phenomena. I think we owe it to the people to establish credibility regarding UFOs, and to produce the greatest possible enlightenment of the subject."

President Gerald Ford (during his years as a US Congressman).
What happened thereafter? Absolutely nothing. What stopped him?

"In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. I occasionally think how quickly our differences, worldwide, would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world."

Former President Ronald Reagan, while sharing the stage with former Russian leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, 1988.
Was this stated to prepare the human race for an alien reality? Did alien contact influence the collapse of communism?

"It is true that I was denied access to a facility at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, because I never got in. I can't tell you what was inside. We both know about the rumors (concerning a captured UFO and crew members). I have never seen what I would call a UFO, but I have intelligent friends who have."

US Senator, US Air Force General, and candidate for President, Barry Goldwater, quoted from a letter he wrote dated April 11, 1979.
Did anything significant happen regarding UFO secrecy? The Pentagon warned him to drop his interest in UFOs. Why, if UFOs do not exist?

"Well, Slim, (McClelland's knick name by Astronaut friends), I was flying a P-51 Mustang at about 12,000 feet over Minneapolis in 1951. I thought it was a simple kite. As I flew closer to it I looked at it and thought it was a weather balloon. But as I got behind it I could tell it wasn't a balloon. It looked like a disc."

NASA astronaut, Donald "Deke" Slayton.
"Mission Control, please be informed, there is a Santa Claus."
— NASA astronaut, James Lovell (of Apollo 13 fame), flying with Frank Borman and William Anders, emerging from the dark side of the moon during their historic first circumlunar mission, Apollo-8, in December, 1968.
"Santa Claus" was the mission code used if sighting a strange object such as a UFO.

"While flying with several other USAF pilots over Germany in 1957, we sighted numerous radiant flying discs above us. We couldn't tell how high they were. We couldn't get anywhere near their altitude."
"While working with a camera crew supervising flight testing of advanced aircraft at Edward's Air Force Base, California, the camera crew filmed the landing of a strange disc object that flew in over their heads and landed on a dry lake nearby. A camera crewman approached the saucer, it rose up above the area and flew off at a speed faster than any known aircraft."

NASA astronaut, L. Gordon Cooper.
"I've talked with people of military and government credentials and position and heard their stories, and their desire to tell their stories openly to the public. And that got my attention very, very rapidly...the first hand experiences of these credible witnesses that, now in advanced years are anxious to tell their story. We can't deny that, and the evidence points to the fact that Roswell was a real incident, and that indeed an alien craft did crash, and that material was recovered from that crash site..."

Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Mission veteran.
"The next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets."

Former Five Star General of the Army, Douglas MacArthur, 1955.
In one of the strangest stories in recent years, former Apollo astronaut and Senator JOHN GLENN made a March appearance on the NBC comedy "Frasier" in which he made following comments. Although many have dismissed them as simple humor because of their context -- one of the most popular comedy's on television -- when you actually watch the program, listen to the words and observe Glenn's demeanor, it becomes much harder to dismiss this as “simple episodic comedy.”

"Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things we didn't want to say and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, were you alone out there? We never gave the real answer, and yet we see things out there, strange things, but we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything. The bosses were really afraid of this, they were afraid of the War of the Worlds type stuff, and about panic in the streets. So we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies, and some of them are pretty close to being the truth."

Astronaut John Glenn

These remarks were made by NEIL ARMSTRONG at the White House on WEDNESDAY, JULY 20, 1994 during a ceremony commemorating the Apollo 11 mission:

"Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say we have only completed a beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of the truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief..."

Astronaut Neil Armstrong

From the St. Petersburg Times, Florida - February 18, 2004:

ST. PETERSBURG TIMES
Astronaut: We´ve had visitors

"A few insiders know the truth . . . and are studying the bodies that have been discovered," said Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon.
Mitchell, who landed on the moon with Alan B. Shepard, said a "cabal" of insiders stopped briefing presidents about extraterrestrials after President Kennedy.

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell

According to a taped interview by J. L. Ferrando, Major Cooper said:

"For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public. Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means"

"I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentations left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed...I happen to know that authority did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panicky reaction from the public"

Astronaut L. Gordon Cooper

Yes, it keeps me employed!

The day we discover a near Earth object (NEO) on a collision course with us that ground-based telescopes missed will be the day it's all worthwhile. That 100% will happen. Might be tomorrow, might be in 500 years. But it will happen. Imagine if we did find that with ground-based telescopes but didn't have the technology to intercept it because we have no need for such powerful rockets and guidance systems here on Earth.

Ain't that the truth.

I am surprised at the significant number of folks who see no value in space exploration, for whatever reason.

I guess some folks are content to just sit at "home". :)

We all know that, if NASA were eliminated tomorrow, that money would not go to anything more useful. The gov't. would find new social giveways to finance with it. I think those are the biggest waste of money on Earth and have never solved any problems. NASA may do things more expensively than they need to. But I'd rather them pi$s it away than have it get handed out to bums.

Satellites. That technology, alone, is worth every penny we have spent on NASA.

Of course, that is so 21st century. One of these centuries, we'll be writing:

"Earth-destroying meteor detector and interceptors. That technology, alone, is worth every yuan we have spent on CASA."

Basically, if "Space Exploration" means the use of satellites to explore near space, then I am for it. Right now, I cannot think of any good reason to send people into space.

The early space program was basically a medical experiment. Later, with the advent of the space shuttle, the research morphed into more physical and industrial research. This research can be done today without anyone leaving the ground, as far as I can tell.

-It would be great to send people to other worlds, such as Mars and perhaps some of the larger moons that exist in the solar system. But IMHO, this is just not a realistic endeavor until we come up with a viable alternative to chemical rockets. These devices are extremely expensive, cannot put much weight into orbit relative to their size, and are insanely dangerous. A chemical rocket is basically a barely-controlled bomb, and they are regularly involved in what are euphamistically called "launch accidents". What's more, the object that they put in space can only return by essentially falling back to the planet's surface in an uncontrolled fashion, since most of the time the engine/tank portion of the vehicle is jettisoned during the ascent.

"Star Trek" style drives that allow the vehicle to levitate up and down from the planet's surface may be invented one day, but until then, large scale exploration or colonization of space is essentially an impossibility.

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Come, my friends,
'T is not too late to seek a newer world.
Push off, and sitting well in order smite
The sounding furrows; for my purpose holds
To sail beyond the sunset, and the baths
Of all the western stars, until I die.
It may be that the gulfs will wash us down:
It may be we shall touch the Happy Isles,
And see the great Achilles, whom we knew.
Tho' much is taken, much abides; and tho'
We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

You have to be kidding me! An otherwise intelligent group, denying the virtue of space exploration and NASA. Satellites, plastic technology, composites technology, 90% of the world's aerodynamic research (fly recently?), the list goes on and on. To say that someone else would invent this stuff is idiotic. Is Joe Bob down the street going to construct a geosyncronous satellite in his garage, then launch it into low earth orbit so you can watch HBO? The work that they do is absolutely remarkable, and compared to what many federal agencies consume, an absolute bargain.

Plus, what value do we put on knowledge? What is knowing what's "out there" worth? Hundreds of years ago, people looked to the stars and moon with fear and uncertainty. To know and understand your world, how do you ever put a value on that?

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"I would argue that the transfer of technology from space exploration is so significant and ubiquitous that it is hard to effectively quantify."

WRONG

"Billions and billions and billions spent, for what. Some technological inventions that would have been invented eventually anyway, for a tiny fraction of what the space program cost."

RIGHT

It is a TOTAL waste of our resources. Do we need a stong defense system out there? YUP! Do we need to learn all about what else is out there? Well if you think so, then you fund it. We have more important issues right here on this planet.
Providing funding so people can make billion dollar mistakes with no real benefit if they don't is STUPID! Healthcare or space exploration? Which is more important. I guess the answer depends on whether your head is in the clouds.

You're joking, right? If that's your stance, give up everything that NASA has had a hand in. Or better yet, donate it to one of these poor people without health insurance that your heart bleeds for.

Unfortunately, many Americans believe that space exploration accounts for up 25% of federal spending. NASA's budget is currently less than one percent of the entire US budget. I believe it's currently at .6%. Not all of NASA's budget goes to manned spaceflight. There are unmanned missions as well aeronautical R&D and planetary sciences that fall under NASA's jurisdiction. Aeronautical R&D benefits us nearly everyday when we schlep aboard a 737 headed to Disneyworld.

Tell me what would be achieved by redirecting that small amount into other programs?

A few some people on here might miss:

ENRICHED BABY FOOD - A microalgae-based, vegetable-like oil called Formulaid developed from NASA-sponsored research on long duration space travel, contains two essential fatty acids found in human milk but not in most baby formulas, believed to be important for infants' mental and visual development.

WATER PURIFICATION SYSTEM - NASA-developed municipal-size water treatment system for developing nations, called the Regenerable Biocide Delivery Unit, uses iodine rather than chlorine to kill bacteria.

SCRATCH-RESISTANT LENSES - A modified version of a dual ion beam bonding process developed by NASA involves coating the lenses with a film of diamond-like carbon that not only provides scratch resistance, but also decreases surface friction, reducing water spots.

POOL PURIFICATION - Space technology designed to sterilize water on long-duration spacecraft applied to swimming pool purification led to a system that uses two silver-copper alloy electrodes that generate silver and copper ions when an electric current passes through them to kill bacteria and algae without chemicals.

GOLF BALL AERODYNAMICS - A recently designed golf ball, which has 500 dimples arranged in a pattern of 60 spherical triangles, employs NASA aerodynamics technology to create a more symmetrical ball surface, sustaining initial velocity longer and producing a more stable ball flight for better accuracy and distance.

SPORTS TRAINING - Space-developed cardio-muscular conditioner helps athletes increase muscular strength and cardiovascular fitness through kinetic exercise.

ATHLETIC SHOES - Moon Boot material encapsulated in running shoe midsoles improve shock absorption and provides superior stability and motion control.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, and quartz crystal timing equipment.

SOLAR ENERGY - NASA-pioneered photovoltaic power system for spacecraft applications was applied to programs to expand terrestrial applications as a viable alternative energy source in areas where no conventional power source exists.

WEATHER FORECASTING AID - Space Shuttle environmental control technology led to the development of the Barorator which continuously measures the atmospheric pressure and calculates the instantaneous rate of change.

FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL - Materials include chemically-treated fabric for sheets, uniforms for hazardous material handlers, crew's clothing, furniture, interior walls of submersibles and auto racer and refueler suits.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, and air purification.

DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM - The LORAD Stereo Guide Breast Biopsy system incorporates advanced Charge Coupled Devices (CCDs) as part of a digital camera system. The resulting device images breast tissue more clearly and efficiently. Known as stereotactic large-core needle biopsy, this nonsurgical system developed with Space Telescope Technology is less traumatic and greatly reduces the pain, scarring, radiation exposure, time, and money associated with surgical biopsies.

BREAST CANCER DETECTION - A solar cell sensor is positioned directly beneath x-ray film, and determines exactly when film has received sufficient radiation and has been exposed to optimum density. Associated electronic equipment then sends a signal to cut off the x-ray source. Reduction of mammography x-ray exposure reduces radiation hazard and doubles the number of patient exams per machine.

LASER ANGIOPLASTY - Laser angioplasty with a "cool" type of laser, caller an excimer laser, does not damage blood vessel walls and offers precise non-surgical cleanings of clogged arteries with extraordinary precision and fewer complications than in balloon angioplasty.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, and cataract surgery tools.

MICROLASERS - Based on a concept for optical communications over interplanetary distances, microlasers were developed for the commercial market to transmit communication signals and to drill, cut, or melt materials.

MAGNETIC BEARING SYSTEM - Bearings developed from Space Shuttle designs support moving machinery without physical contact, permitting motion without friction or wear, and are now used in electric power generation, petroleum refining, machine tool operation, and natural gas pipelines.

ENGINE LUBRICANT - A NASA-developed plasma-sprayed coating is used to coat valves in a new, ten-inch-long, four-cylinder rotary engine, eliminating the need for lubricating the rotorcam, which has no crankshaft, flywheel, distributor, or water pump.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, and engine design.

RADIATION HAZARD DETECTOR - NASA technology has made commercially available new, inexpensive, conveniently carried device for protection of people exposed to potentially dangerous levels of microwave radiation. Weighing only 4 ounces and about the size of a cigarette pack, it can be carried in a shirt pocket or clipped to a belt. Unit sounds an audible alarm when microwave radiation reaches a preset level.

FIREMAN'S AIR TANKS - Lighter-weight firefighter's air tanks have been developed. New back-pack system weighs only 20 lbs. for 30 minute air supply, 13 lbs. less than conventional firefighting tanks. They are pressurized at 4,500 psia (twice current tanks). A warning device tells the fireman when he or she is running out of air.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands.

STUDLESS WINTER TIRES - Viking Lander parachute shroud material is adapted and used to manufacture radial tires, increasing the tire material's chainlike molecular structure to five times the strength of steel should increase tread life by 10,000 miles.

BETTER BRAKES - New, high-temperature composite space materials provide for better brake linings. Applications includes trucks, industrial equipment and passenger cars.

WEIGHT SAVING TECHNOLOGY - NASA research on composite materials is used to achieve a 30-percent weight reduction in a twin-turbine helicopter, resulting in a substantial increase in aircraft performance.

IMPROVED AIRCRAFT ENGINE - Multiple NASA developed technological advancements resulted in a cleaner, quieter, more economical commercial aircraft engine known as the high bypass turbofan, featuring a 10-percent reduction in fuel consumption, lower noise levels, and emission reductions of oxides of nitrogen, carbon monoxide, and unburned hydrocarbons.

ADVANCED LUBRICANTS - An environmental-friendly lubricant designed to support the Space Shuttle Mobile Launcher Platform led to the development of three commercial lubricants for railroad track maintenance, for electric power company corrosion prevention, and as a hydraulic fluid with an oxidation life of 10,000 hours.

NEW WING DESIGN FOR CORPORATE JETS - NASA-developed computer programs resulted in an advanced, lighter, more aerodynamically-efficient new wing for Gulfstream business aircraft.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Safer bridges, emission testing, airline wheelchairs, electric car, auto design, methane-powered vehicles, windshear prediction, and aircraft design analysis.



These are just some of the obvious ones. Even Bin Laden in his Afghanistan cave has probably benefited from some of this. This is in addition to the obvious stuff like satellites (communications, entertainment, weather, surveillance, GPS), space exploration, space defense, etc.

I'd bet money that more of my tax dollars go to some baby's momma than they do NASA. What has she contributed to society, beyond perpetuating the welfare society? Not to mention the Social Security dollars that I will never see again.

You are wrong. Technology is advanced because NASA makes it advance. WE would not have this technology if NASA didn't force the issue.


All of you that said that space exploration is bad are dead to me. I cannot believe that someone in this day and age can actually stand up and say such a thing. There are 6 billion people worried about a single small planet, and 40,000 people worried about the rest of the freaking universe...yeah, they're wasting all of your resources :rolleyes:

Damn, I never had a green one.

That's nice.

I've said it before elsewhere... It's time for NASA to amend it's mandate and get involved in alternative energy research and development. They went to the moon with incredibly clever engineering, they can do this too.

Having worked with both NASA and the DOE, I think the DOE is better equipped for this mission.

I have to agree with Mule on this one- intergalctic womanizing is why we do it. Worth every penny.