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nostatic 08-02-2008 06:50 PM

a higher purpose?
 
Some threads beg the question about people's views on a "higher purpose." And so, a poll...

Mostly the climate change threads make me wonder, but there are others as well. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, but I'd like to get a feel for whether or not people think that humans have a "higher purpose" beyond just living day to day.

m21sniper 08-02-2008 06:52 PM

We are as insignificant as the universe is vast.

david c. 08-02-2008 06:53 PM

Well, the first thing that jumps to mind is the instinctual drive to reproduce. I'm not sure if that's what you mean but it's obviously a drive that, if satisfied, has little if any direct effect on the individual.

dd74 08-02-2008 06:56 PM

Well, everyday we create history for others to read and experience in the future. I think that means we inherently have a higher purpose. To each other.

Nathans_Dad 08-02-2008 06:56 PM

Chalk me up on the "higher purpose" ledger.

We are placed here for a reason. Each of our lives has a purpose in the grander scheme.

lendaddy 08-02-2008 06:59 PM

I think it's very important for most to feel that they are contributing to/working toward a greater purpose.

john70t 08-02-2008 07:02 PM

My ambitions are very small. I only want $1.00 from every American.

Noah930 08-02-2008 07:23 PM

I try to live by that camping motto of leaving the place a little nicer than how it was when I found it.

kstar 08-02-2008 07:57 PM

Be good, do good.

No deity required.

JavaBrewer 08-02-2008 08:20 PM

+1 on Kurt's be good do good. Not because you feel obligated to, but because you want to. I voted for the karma option because I think people get what they put out. No deity required.

Jagshund 08-02-2008 08:29 PM

I agree with the assertion that we are as insignificant as the universe is vast. However, I believe it is our "calling" to become significant in our given place; it is our calling to become more than human . . . rise above the flesh and the beings that we are: hotwired to consume, reproduce and watch out for number one. I'd like to think it's possible . . . and we'll stop there before I write a book.

Porsche-O-Phile 08-02-2008 08:32 PM

Yep. I picked #2, although #2 & #3 both seem to apply.

Ya need to look out for #1 but past the point of ensuring your own survival and reasonable level of comfort, it is inherently noble to look past ourselves and try to leave the world better than when we found it.

Maslow got it right:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1217737913.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

trekkor 08-02-2008 08:35 PM

Hi! SmileWavy


KT

Jagshund 08-02-2008 08:38 PM

Wow. The hierarchy of needs. I thought I left that back in psych class YEARS ago . . .

How is it I that I just realized I'm watching "Biker Boyz" and have likely been doing so for over an hour . . .

Pazuzu 08-03-2008 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4098079)
We are as insignificant as the universe is vast.

Ironic. The fact that a humans can even SAY that...meaning, they have some appreciation of the vastness of the Universe and our part in it...means that we are NOT insignificant, because something that truly IS insignificant cannot properly comprehend what is larger than it.

Therefore, by you stating that, you have negated your own statement.

svandamme 08-03-2008 10:39 AM

i don't see karma as a higher purpose
i just see it as a way of life

and sometimes it works out , sometimes it doesn't
sometimes i screw up my end of it, and sometimes the karma end screws up

I just try

m21sniper 08-03-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 4098729)
Ironic. The fact that a humans can even SAY that...meaning, they have some appreciation of the vastness of the Universe and our part in it...means that we are NOT insignificant,

Hardly. That's some A-1 grade nonsense you be talkin' bro.

mossguy 08-03-2008 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4098079)
We are as insignificant as the universe is vast.

Probably the first time I have agreed with sniper. (Maybe not the last).

Tom

Pazuzu 08-03-2008 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4099028)
Hardly. That's some A-1 grade nonsense you be talkin' bro.

You're a strange mess of conflicting ideas, depending on which thread you're in.

Either we're insignificant useless gnats wasting space on this planet...or we're strong evolutionary predators who deserve to use the environment as we feel fit, because it's adapt or die dude...or you're saying that government funding is good as long as it's military and not NASA...or you're saying that government only funds welfare and destroys the country because of socialism.

Quite the interesting character you are.

Jim Richards 08-03-2008 01:30 PM

Both of his personalities are interesting.


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