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pwd72s 08-12-2008 10:32 AM

Slideshow..WWII
 
Thanks to the computer skills of John, aka "Mr.Puff", I can now post this. Hope some here find it as informative as I did...

http://www.puffinteractive.com/aguerramundial.pps

Shaun @ Tru6 08-12-2008 10:42 AM

10 years ago I wanted to build a computerized globe whose surface was a screen which would do stuff like this in response to input from a desktop.

pwd72s 08-12-2008 10:48 AM

The computer skills of whoever did this amazed me. Pretty fascinating history lesson as well. Really gives another understanding.

azasadny 08-12-2008 11:59 AM

Excellent graphic representation of the war. Thanks! I'll show my kids this today and show them where their grandfather was...

Mr.Puff 08-12-2008 01:08 PM

Awesome powerpoint. We need one of those for the Pacific too. My Grandpa was a flight engineer for a B-29 bombing the mainland :).

ZOA NOM 08-12-2008 01:12 PM

Awesome. My grandfather was original 501st PIR, which became (with other units) the 101st Airborne, and dropped into Normandy and Holland, and was standing in the room with Anthony McCauliff when he told the Germans "Nuts" when they demanded their surrender at Bastogne.

Tim Polzin 08-12-2008 01:38 PM

Impressive. My dad was under Clark in Italy. It was interesting to watch the front move up to the Po Valley.

Thanks Paul.

Tim

m21sniper 08-12-2008 03:28 PM

Paternal Grandpa was in the 3rd Army with Patton.

Maternal Grandpa was a bomber mechanic with the mighty 8th AF.

imcarthur 08-12-2008 03:59 PM

Very good. Thanks for posting it.

Ian

ZOA NOM 08-12-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4116335)
Paternal Grandpa was in the 3rd Army with Patton

What took him so long getting to Bastogne? :D

m21sniper 08-12-2008 04:22 PM

3rd Army was busy playing in the snow. :)

pwd72s 08-12-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 4116046)
Awesome. My grandfather was original 501st PIR, which became (with other units) the 101st Airborne, and dropped into Normandy and Holland, and was standing in the room with Anthony McCauliff when he told the Germans "Nuts" when they demanded their surrender at Bastogne.

You'd enjoy reading a book I have:

"Easy Company Soldier"
By Sgt. Donald Malarkey

It's probably the best written of the "Band of Brothers" books...

(edit) Donald Malarkey is a regular at a pool hall Cindy & I like to play in. He told me of freezing his butt off, being shelled in the woods of Bastogne, looking up and seeing "thousands" of B-17's pass overhead, they cheering the guys of the 8th on. For all I know, then Captain Gordon Donkin, my Uncle, could have been piloting one of those planes.

I'm sure many who post here have some family history on that map...and I agree with "Puff"...too bad nothing similar for the Pacific campaign. Or at least, nothing that I know of...

ZOA NOM 08-12-2008 06:16 PM

My grandfather contributed to "A Bridge Too Far", about the bridge at Arnhem. He said he spent a month in a foxhole there.

pwd72s 08-12-2008 06:38 PM

Sadly, these Vets won't be around a lot longer...it's good that some are now talking/writing of their experiences.

Mr.Puff 08-12-2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4116738)
Sadly, these Vets won't be around a lot longer...it's good that some are now talking/writing of their experiences.

Yeah,

My Great Grandfather was a sniper in the Pacific. He has just started talking about it recently :(. Harsh stuff.

Jim Bremner 08-12-2008 09:22 PM

for all of you guys that have Dad's and grandads that where there, if they still won't talk to you bout it - please ask them to write some of it down for "later"

oh' and thank them.

I've met a few of 'em.

pwd72s 08-13-2008 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 4117030)
for all of you guys that have Dad's and grandads that where there, if they still won't talk to you bout it - please ask them to write some of it down for "later"

oh' and thank them.

I've met a few of 'em.

Good point Jim...Don Malarkey was pressured to write his book, with the aid of a pro writer. This only after the "Band of Brothers" movie came out.

Seahawk 08-13-2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZOANAS (Post 4116046)
Awesome. My grandfather was original 501st PIR, which became (with other units) the 101st Airborne, and dropped into Normandy and Holland, and was standing in the room with Anthony McCauliff when he told the Germans "Nuts" when they demanded their surrender at Bastogne.

Ummm...wow.

m21sniper 08-13-2008 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Puff (Post 4116962)
Yeah,

My Great Grandfather was a sniper in the Pacific. He has just started talking about it recently :(. Harsh stuff.

One cannot even imagine, i am sure.

Tim Polzin 08-13-2008 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Puff (Post 4116962)
Yeah,

My Great Grandfather was a sniper in the Pacific. He has just started talking about it recently :(. Harsh stuff.

My dad was the same way, never mentioned anything about combat. He was a machine gunner in Italy. Finally, after watching "Band of Brothers" he opened up briefly for the first and only time. Wow, no idea it was like that!

Tim

pwd72s 08-13-2008 12:52 PM

Tim, The movie "band of brothers", plus all the books? They only give us an idea of what it was really like...a semi impression. I once asked my B-17 pilot Uncle what it was like. He asked if I was there...if not, then nothing he could say would give the true meaning, the true experience. Still, the generation that lived the experience will too soon be gone from us. Even a semi impression is better than having no impression at all.

(Edit) What I liked about reading Don Malarkey's book? When the "band of brothers" movie was BS, his book called 'em on it. For example, the scene of coming across a concentration camp....he wrote that as far as he knew, nobody in Easy Co. ever saw a concentration camp.

The owner of The Cue Ball, Salem, OR keeps books on hand. If Don is there, he autographs them. Just thought of another friend I'd like to send a copy to. Cindy & I planning on playing pool tomorrow...hope Don is there. He really is a class act. Still shoots a pretty good stick, too! :)

Seahawk 08-13-2008 01:03 PM

One of the gentlemen I used to buy hay from was an Iwo Jima Marine. We only knew this because his son is a friend of ours. He ran a hay farm here in Maryland that had been in his family for generations. He passed last year.

He worked the farm into his 80's...lean old man, eyes as clear as a fall night, rode a tractor like he was in a saddle.

NO ONE, including my USMC buddies who helped me with the hay ever asked, he never offered.

pwd72s 08-13-2008 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 4118171)
One of the gentlemen I used to buy hay from was an Iwo Jima Marine. We only knew this because his son is a friend of ours. He ran a hay farm here in Maryland that had been in his family for generations. He passed last year.

He worked the farm into his 80's...lean old man, eyes as clear as a fall night, rode a tractor like he was in a saddle.

NO ONE, including my USMC buddies who helped me with the hay ever asked, he never offered.


Same with Uncle Gordon...never talked about it. Now that he's gone, I feel the loss...of course the loss of my uncle, but the loss of never having a clue....My aunt still lives. She told me that Gordon never talked about it...a closed book on the subject.

Seahawk 08-13-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4118184)
Same with Uncle Gordon...never talked about it. Now that he's gone, I feel the loss...of course the loss of my uncle, but the loss of never having a clue....My aunt still lives. She told me that Gordon never talked about it...a closed book on the subject.

Paul,

It is refreshing in a way. In an age where people get trophy's for participating I admire the stoic old coots.

I know they may have suffered for their silence, but it was their way.

My wife's step father was a PT Boat crewman in the Pacific. I think I have written this before: when I can get him to talk about his experiences, he is always the foil, never did anything remotely brave.

Sure:cool:

pwd72s 08-13-2008 01:49 PM

That too, the stoicism, was part of their generation. Perhaps growing up during the depression was a factor?

Tim Polzin 08-13-2008 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4118146)
Tim, The movie "band of brothers", plus all the books? They only give us an idea of what it was really like...a semi impression. I once asked my B-17 pilot Uncle what it was like. He asked if I was there...if not, then nothing he could say would give the true meaning, the true experience. Still, the generation that lived the experience will too soon be gone from us. Even a semi impression is better than having no impression at all.

At the time I brought him the movie, he rarely read very much anymore because of his macular degeneration. Back in the days he was younger, he was the first in line to see "Battle of the Bulge" and "The Longest Day". He said he enjoyed the entertainment of those movies, but the portrayal of the emotions in the combat scenes in "Band of Brothers" he said was the most realistic he had ever seen. I think he especially enjoyed some of the comments of the other veterans.

Tim

typ550 08-13-2008 02:52 PM

Over the years, I have not always seen eye-to-eye with my dad (who turned 88 this year), but I have a lot of respect for his service in the ETO, particularly the time he spent in the Huertgen Forest (also known as the Death Factory). I have had the opportunity to visit the Huertgen a couple of times now, most recently with a WWII Wehrmacht veteran serving as a tour guide, and there is something very powerful in seeing these places firsthand and standing in those foxholes. I've been to a couple of specific locations where my dad was nearly killed and it's a strange feeling to know you might not be standing there yourself if a bullet or shell fragment had gone in a slightly different direction. Also a little surreal to be picking up a sackful of shrapnel that had been just lying around for the sixty years that had passed since he was there.

I wish Dad was in good enough health to go back for a visit; he always talked about doing it and now that I can afford to take him, he can't physically manage it.

pwd72s 08-13-2008 05:48 PM

FWIW, overstock.com has the "Band of Brothers" DVD set for around $50...almost 20 less than amazon wanted. I just ordered a set...


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