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Drdogface 08-18-2008 08:24 AM

Musharraf resigns
 
Pres. Musharraf of Pakistan has resigned under extreme pressure of impeachment. To me this may be a really important story since Pakistan has significant nukes.

Musharraf has been somewhat friendly and helpful to US causes but if these nukes get into the wrong hands what Iran may develop will possibly become moot...or at least of secondary importance.

Shaun @ Tru6 08-18-2008 09:00 AM

Well, there's $8 billion down the drain. :(

MichiganMat 08-18-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4126138)
Well, there's $8 billion down the drain. :(

LOL! McCain will find us another 100billion by tomorrow.

island911 08-18-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4126138)
Well, there's $8 billion down the drain. :(

That is the least of our worries now.

Drdogface 08-18-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 4126190)
That is the least of our worries now.

Absolutely true. Pakistan is full of radical Muslims. If they get control things are gonna get really ugly... really fast.

Shaun @ Tru6 08-18-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 4126190)
That is the least of our worries now.

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Tobra 08-18-2008 10:02 PM

Thought this would be bigger news than it is.

Could be very bad

1967 R50/2 08-18-2008 11:43 PM

Relatively irrelevant in my opinion, for the same reasons as in the "armeggedon" thread. But even moreso, because this presumes that the DEMOCRATiCALLY ELECTED gov't of Pakistan is somehow incapable of securing nuclear weapons while the outgoing DICTATOR who came to power in a coupe was.

As this is essentially the same stuff all over again, I'm going to do a cut and paste here:

Cut and then paste.

1. Believe it or not everthing that happens in the world involves the US.
2. And not everthing that is bad is the end of the world.

Frankly, if Iran gets the A-bomb it changes nothing. If Pakistani radicals get the bomb...it too is changes almost nothing. Since almost the dawn of the nuclear age we have lived under the threat of imminent annihilation from the Soviet Union (now, Russian Federation, etc.) That's a threat much more real than any posed by IRAN (or Pakistan) and we never give it a 2nd thought.

We didn't go and blow ourselves up over the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that was a much more real threat than any imagined threat today.

If Iran gets the bomb, the most likely outcome is that they will pull a "north korea" and use it as a bargaining chip to get sanctions dropped. Which is fine by me. We've had sanctions on Iran for almost 30 years with no effect other than giving the Ayatollahs someone to thumb their noses at and justify their existence. Same with Cuba. Same with Saddam before we stepped in. Same with Kim Jung Il. These sphincters all need a "Crisis" to justfy themselves domestically and our foreign policy serves it up, nice, warm and delivered to their door in less than 30 minutes. I can't think of instance where sanctions have actually forced a regime change.

Nixon knew this. Better to open up to China then isolate them. Now they are all good capitalists.

As for Israel...they can take care of themselves reagrdless of Iran's intentions. They have been doing so for a long time. Plus they have nukes and everyone knows it, including Iran.

island911 08-18-2008 11:49 PM

give nukes to suicide bombers... it changes almost nothing. <----- is that what you're saying?

1967 R50/2 08-19-2008 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 4127724)
give nukes to suicide bombers... it changes almost nothing. <----- is that what you're saying?

Exactly. Since the Russians got the bomb in the fifties, using a nuke has always been suicide.

It's called Mutually Assured Destruction. Perhaps you've heard of it?

The only difference now is that countries in question (Iran, Pakistan) have NOT demonstrated the ability to deliver a weapon to the US. This makes them far less a threat than say Russia, which has had this ability for nigh on 50 years....but we don't stay awake at night worrying about that.

BTW: I would not qualify the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN to be "Suicide Bombers"<-----Are you saying they are?

I also don't think that old Pervez had any better grip on the radicals than the new guys will. At least he never demonstrated it to my liking.


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