Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4131136)

What rebuttals?

Scientists were proven wrong, they didn't think birds were self aware. They are. What the hell is there for me to rebutt?

My point was that many say "this is fact because scientists say so" ,and that they are only facts in so much as we are still QUITE ignorant about a hell of a lot of stuff.

Birds are self aware, and for all the years scientists told us they weren't, the eggheads were....Wrong.

Understand amigo?


Au contraire captain condescension, scientists have said birds were not self-aware. Hence science espoused that theory.

They were, ahem, wrong.

Now all you have to do is deal with it.

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4131136)

What rebuttals?

Scientists were proven wrong, they didn't think birds were self aware. They are. What the hell is there for me to rebutt?

My point was that many say "this is fact because scientists say so" ,and that they are only facts in so much as we are still QUITE ignorant about a hell of a lot of stuff.

Birds are self aware, and for all the years scientists told us they weren't, the eggheads were....Wrong.

Understand amigo?


Au contraire captain condescension, scientists have said birds were not self-aware. Hence science espoused that theory.

They were, ahem, wrong.

Now all you have to do is deal with it.

Originally Posted by IROC (Post 4131152)

- we learn something new every day - that doesn't mean we were idiots the day before.

Originally Posted by m21sniper (Post 4131161)

I believe my point is as obvious as it is true. Many (if not most) scientific facts are only 'facts' because we're a lot more ignorant about our universe than we think.

It's amusing when previously held 'facts' are exposed as ignorant misunderstandings. Scientist should really always preface their statements of 'fact' with we "we think..."

Tis' especially amusing when the eggheads get all defensive about their previous ignorance. Thanks guys. :D