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Shaun @ Tru6 09-04-2008 07:15 AM

Drilling in ANWR
 
McCain is against drilling in ANWR.

Paliln is for drilling in ANWR

Who will win that debate in 2009?

BTW, I am for drilling in ANWR. Alaska does nothing but soak up tax dollars for bridges to nowhere, so we should be getting all the oil and all the crabs we can out of the state in return.

Mule 09-04-2008 07:18 AM

Have you stopped doing the "leave Barak alone " bit yet? Edited - personal attack removed. -Z-man.

Obama hates white people, the Delaware Destroyer is white. Who wins that issue?

Pazuzu 09-04-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4159105)
Who will win that debate in 2009?

Obama? :p

legion 09-04-2008 07:19 AM

ANWR is about the size of the entire western lower 48. The areas that would be impacted by drilling would add up (including roads to drilling sites) to about the area of a small town. 99.9999% of the land would remain completely untouched if it was opened to drilling.

Porsche-O-Phile 09-04-2008 07:19 AM

It's up to Congress. There will be no drilling in ANWAR anytime soon.

Shaun @ Tru6 09-04-2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4159123)
It's up to Congress. There will be no drilling in ANWAR anytime soon.

Jeff, basic assumption that McCain/Palin are in office (they will win) and that Palin wins the debate, the Admin will do what Clinton did in shutting down the government on Newt.

it will be a public rallying cry and enough centrist Democrats will vote for it.

that is my prediction.

What's up in the air is will Palin overrule McCain.

onewhippedpuppy 09-04-2008 07:33 AM

If McCain/Palin win, I think it will happen. With Palin having the first hand Alaska perspective, I think she has the ability to push it through.

BeyGon 09-04-2008 07:37 AM

I think the area they really want to drill in is about the size of LA X. Not the whole area.

sammyg2 09-04-2008 08:08 AM

What the dems in congress (liar pelosi for one) won't admit is that the Alaskan oil reserves that are currently being tapped are dying off.
IIRC they are pumping about 65% of the volume they were getting at the peak. Something will have to replace that oil, we can drill more wells or we can buy it from Venezuela, Iraq, Iran, saudi etc.

kach22i 09-04-2008 09:42 AM

On NPR yesterday T Bone Pickens said the pipeline can only deliver 2% (max) of our needs no matter how much we drill there.

varmint 09-04-2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4159470)
On NPR yesterday T Bone Pickens said the pipeline can only deliver 2% (max) of our needs no matter how much we drill there.

2% from anwr. another few from offshore, another couple out west. ad in nuclear and alternative. pretty soon you're talking about real numbers.

how much from inflating tires?

The Gaijin 09-04-2008 09:50 AM

So build a second pipline.

What gets me is that so many look at this as static technology..

Three Mile Island was built in the 60s and most likely designed in the 50s.

The Alaska pipeline was built in the 70s.

Have there been no advances in drilling technology? In exploration technology?

Can't we build these things? Recover these resources? Ship this stuff?

I think they boomers are worried any long term investments are going to cut into their monthly social security checks.. And Obama cant find another penny that has not already been promised to the teachers union or some such..

kach22i 09-04-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gaijin (Post 4159490)
So build a second pipline.

I bet it would cost a lot.

How many wind-generators and solar panels would that buy?

Also keep in mind that much of the Alaskan oil is more expensive to process, it's not all light sweet crude.

onewhippedpuppy 09-04-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4159497)
I bet it would cost a lot.

How many nuclear powerplants would that buy?

Also keep in mind that much of the Alaskan oil is more expensive to process, it's not all light sweet crude.

Fixed that for you. If you're thinking alternative sources, lets at least focus on the cost-effective ones that have a chance of making a meaningful difference.

Mo_Gearhead 09-04-2008 10:10 AM

QUOTE: "How many wind-generators and solar panels would that buy?"
_____________
LMAO!!

This type of (apparently serious???) statement is EXACTLY why this BB is so amusing to visit!

Gotta get that daily fix of humor!

Mule 09-04-2008 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4159497)
I bet it would cost a lot.

How many wind-generators and solar panels would that buy?

Also keep in mind that much of the Alaskan oil is more expensive to process, it's not all light sweet crude.

Does your dumb "Edited - language removed, Z-man" ass really think you can provide 2% of the nation's energy from windmills & solar panels for a similar amount? Do you really think that?


Additionally, Boone has an agenda.

teenerted1 09-04-2008 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4159105)
McCain is against drilling in ANWR.

Paliln is for drilling in ANWR

Who will win that debate in 2009?

BTW, I am for drilling in ANWR. Alaska does nothing but soak up tax dollars for bridges to nowhere, so we should be getting all the oil and all the crabs we can out of the state in return.

didn't you listen last night? she canceled the bridge to no where.

Heel n Toe 09-04-2008 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kach22i (Post 4159497)
I bet it would cost a lot.

How many wind-generators and solar panels would that buy?

Drilling in ANWR? More pipelines? I bet it would cost a lot too.

But we should do it... and I hope we do. The moose and the tundra flowers up there won't suffer enough to question doing it for another 3 seconds.

And I couldn't give a rat's azz for your overpriced wind generators and solar panels because I can't crank up my '93 Chebbie if it doesn't have gas in it.

Gas I can afford.

Now maybe if you wanna buy me a Chevy Volt when it comes out (I sure won't be able to afford one), we can talk, kach22i.

But I bet you don't.

So you know where you can put your wind generators and solar panels. :cool:

MichiganMat 09-04-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by teenerted1 (Post 4159747)
didn't you listen last night? she canceled the bridge to no where.

After she was for it:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220557405.jpg

Shaun @ Tru6 09-04-2008 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teenerted1 (Post 4159747)
didn't you listen last night? she canceled the bridge to no where.

She was for it first, Alaska got the money for it, then she cancelled it, and she...






























wait for it...






































kept the money.


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