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nostatic 09-05-2008 11:58 AM

oohhh, barracuda
 
Maybe they should stick with public domain tunes. How about "Pop Goes the Weasel"?

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/news/article_1429073.php/Barracuda!_Hearts_Ann_and_Nancy_Wilsons_Palin_ceas e_and_desist

To the strains of the classic rock "Barracuda", the RNC closed its show last night.
Now the song's authors, Heart's Ann and Nancy Wilson, are making sure their song is not associated with the Alaskan Governor turned vice presidential pick.

Heart sent a cease-and-desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign Thursday afternoon after their hit "Barracuda" was used twice without permission as the anthem for the vice presidential candidate after her nomination acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention.
Gov. Sarah Palin's nickname was "Barracuda" on her basketball team in high school.

The GOP campaign officials did not get permission from Heart, Universal Music Publishing or Sony BMG.
"We have asked the Republican campaign publicly not to use our music," the Heart duo said in a statement. "We hope our wishes will be honored."
The Wilsons added that permission to use the song was never requested.

The Wilsons issued a statement to Entertainment Weekly.
"I think it's completely unfair to be so misrepresented," Nancy Wilson told the magazine Thursday night. "I feel completely f--ked over."
Her reaction was followed up by an email sent by her and Ann to EW.

"Sarah Palin's views and values in NO WAY represent us as American women. We ask that our song 'Barracuda' no longer be used to promote her image...[It] was written in the late '70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women...There's irony in Republican strategists' choice to make use of it there."

lendaddy 09-05-2008 12:01 PM

I've often wondered about this. Can they actually prevent you from using it if you pay royalties or whatever?

I mean isn't this material "for sale"?

dd74 09-05-2008 12:02 PM

Good catch! I noticed the same. I knew something was strange about Heart playing during the convention. I wondered, Are Anne and Nancy Republicans?:D

dd74 09-05-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4162424)
I've often wondered about this. Can they actually prevent you from using it if you pay royalties or whatever?

I mean isn't this material "for sale"?

Problem is, the RNC didn't buy it. Nor ask permission to use it.

It's not a harmless mistake - especially not to the artists.

lendaddy 09-05-2008 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4162434)
Problem is, the RNC didn't buy it. Nor ask permission to use it.

It's not a harmless mistake - especially not to the artists.

I understand that part and if this system is set up to charge for this kind of use then fine but my point is that I don't see how you can deny your product to a certain part of society if it's for sale.

island911 09-05-2008 12:10 PM

hmmm. . .

I thought I heard this at the end of Barrracks...

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JeremyD 09-05-2008 12:11 PM

Give me a break - I'll send Palin my copy that I bought - They should be more worried about Ipod downloads - as Les said - they were so far off the radar they should be greatfull for anybody that plays their tunes.

Les Paul 09-05-2008 12:12 PM

Springsteen did the same with Reagan on Born in the USA.

Funny about Heart. They were so off the radar screen before this this should perk up some sales for them.

dd74 09-05-2008 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4162447)
I understand that part and if this system is set up to charge for this kind of use then fine but my point is that I don't see how you can deny your product to a certain part of society if it's for sale.

You'd have to consult a music attorney for the details, but from how I understand it, the music is for sale for private use, and not for use to represent a person or group of people. The RNC was a convention, which = a group of people, and that music, because it played there, identified itself with them, which it was never intended to do. I would think this is more pronounced if the artists are Democrats, but the music is played at a Republican convention.

Whose campaign was it that had Fleetwood Mac ("Don't Stop") playing in the b.g.? Clinton's? I'm sure, though both agree on party principles, that Clinton (or whomever) paid for Fleetwood Mac's music.

nostatic 09-05-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4162424)
I've often wondered about this. Can they actually prevent you from using it if you pay royalties or whatever?

I mean isn't this material "for sale"?

It depends on how it is used and who has the rights. There are limits that routinely get trampled on, especially in the digital age. But this is the 3rd time that the McCain campaign has gotten in hot water (Jackson Browne and Van Halen being the other two that complained). You'd think they'd get a clue...

nostatic 09-05-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4162447)
I understand that part and if this system is set up to charge for this kind of use then fine but my point is that I don't see how you can deny your product to a certain part of society if it's for sale.

Easy...it's the law

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanham_Act

dd74 09-05-2008 12:16 PM

Jackson Browne? Who used to be with Darryl Hannah? Oh, man! :D

lendaddy 09-05-2008 12:17 PM

I think Bush got in trouble with Springsteen in 2000 as well.

Looks like it boils down to "distribution" vs "consumption". I guess that makes sense.

Rikao4 09-05-2008 12:19 PM

she felt so F**ked, get real the last time she had that feeling was at Seaworld ,
she feel in..Shamu did a drive-by boink..she squealed like the fat pig she is.

Rika

BlueSkyJaunte 09-05-2008 12:21 PM

China didn't ask for permission nor pay to use the arrangement of the "Star Spangled Banner" that was used in the medal ceremonies.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103668.html

911boost 09-05-2008 12:21 PM

No surprise the Dead was used for the Dem's...

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nostatic 09-05-2008 12:22 PM

For those of us in creative/content fields, it is actually pretty disturbing that this sort of thing happens *repeatedly* in the POTUS campaign. You'd think that would be high profile enough for them to actually pay attention. It's morally and legally wrong. Slippery slope and all that...

Mule 09-05-2008 12:22 PM

Jealous Skanks who never were any good
http://www.heartlinker.eu/images/weblog/80546921.jpg

Seric 09-05-2008 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 4162499)
she felt so F**ked, get real the last time she had that feeling was at Seaworld ,
she feel in..Shamu did a drive-by boink..she squealed like the fat pig she is.

Rika

Nancy is the thin one, Ann is the fat one.

Either way, I think it's a bit of an over reaction. But hey, any publicity is good publicity right? Wonder what the sales of that single are in the last 24 hours on iTunes...

nostatic 09-05-2008 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikao4 (Post 4162499)
she felt so F**ked, get real the last time she had that feeling was at Seaworld ,
she feel in..Shamu did a drive-by boink..she squealed like the fat pig she is.

Rika

How many hit songs have you written and/or performed?


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