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trekkor 09-06-2008 09:31 PM

How is this possible?
 
look for yourself tomorrow.

Just before sundown I can see the moon in the sky.
It's about a 'half moon', but the sun is up, too.

Shouldn't it be 'full'? How can I see both sun and moon at the same time and the sun casts a shadow at the same time?

Hmmm?


KT

Pazuzu 09-06-2008 09:34 PM

It's not possible.

Now, "just before" and "about" add up to "lots of range" which means you saw a 60% moon on the horizon an hour before sundown, which is possible.

Oh, and today moon is almost exactly half (47%)

RWebb 09-06-2008 09:34 PM

why not?

Pazuzu 09-06-2008 09:36 PM

Ohm I misread his post. I thought the moon was on the horizon when he saw it.

Yes, when the moon is first half full, it's always high in the sky during sunset.

slodave 09-06-2008 09:39 PM

Can make for great pictures in the right setting..

Porsche-O-Phile 09-06-2008 09:46 PM

The sun is extremely far away compared to the moon, making it effectively a point light source with rays effectively perpendicular to the moon. Maybe this will explain it better than words can:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1220766324.jpg

trekkor 09-06-2008 09:47 PM

I wanted to take shot tonight with the vineyards all lit up.

So, I saw both the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. Why the shadow?


KT

trekkor 09-06-2008 09:50 PM

Am I seeing a 'side view' of the moon?


I liked looking at it. Very nice.


KT

Pazuzu 09-06-2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 4165075)
I wanted to take shot tonight with the vineyards all lit up.

So, I saw both the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. Why the shadow?


KT

Shadow? From the Sun? Because the light from the Sun is millions of times brighter than the light from the Moon. Technically, the Moon was casting a shadow too, but you couldn't see it since it was drowned out from the ambient light of the Sun.

Stand in a room with a 100 watt floodlight shining on one side of you, and a candle on the other side. Does the candle cast a discernible shadow?

bivenator 09-06-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 4165075)
I wanted to take shot tonight with the vineyards all lit up.

So, I saw both the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. Why the shadow?


KT

Sounds like you were lit up in the vineyards. Isn't photography great. :p

Pazuzu 09-06-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4165072)
The sun is extremely far away compared to the moon, making it effectively a point light source with rays effectively perpendicular to the moon. Maybe this will explain it better than words can:

That's great and all, except that he said it was near sunset, not noon :p

slodave 09-06-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bivenator (Post 4165088)
Sounds like you were lit up in the vineyards. Isn't photography great. :p

That two-buck chuck will do that to you. :cool:

trekkor 09-06-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Sounds like you were lit up
http://www.teamzx2.com/images/smilies/upsidenana.gif

Naw. Just checkin' it out.


KT

Porsche-O-Phile 09-06-2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 4165090)
That's great and all, except that he said it was near sunset, not noon :p

I know - the picture sorta' shows it better. Trekkor's position on the earth is deliberately shown close to the day/night line - in other words sunset (or close to it).

Hopefully that kinda' makes sense.

Pazuzu 09-06-2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4165099)
I know - the picture sorta' shows it better. Trekkor's position on the earth is deliberately shown close to the day/night line - in other words sunset (or close to it).

Hopefully that kinda' makes sense.

You're right, I'm 2 Lone Star's past appreciating the intricacies of your image :p

So much so that I'm sure I spelled "intricacies" wrong, but Firefox says I didn't...hhhhmmmm.....

slodave 09-06-2008 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 4165104)
So much so that I'm sure I spelled "intricacies" wrong, but Firefox says I didn't...hhhhmmmm.....

If you're using FF, search for persdict.dat and see if you accidentally added it...

Pazuzu 09-06-2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 4165111)
If you're using FF, search for persdict.dat and see if you accidentally added it...

It appears that I have not, which means I was correct in my abominable spelling!! WooHoo!!!!


What was this thread about again? :p

slodave 09-06-2008 10:15 PM

Getting drunk in the vineyards and taking pictures or something.

It does look like it is spelled funny. Oh well.

trekkor 09-07-2008 07:48 PM

I saw it again tonight...


KT


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