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jmshepard 09-09-2008 11:13 AM

But...But...the world wants the One.
 
Generally, Americans resent it when other countries try to tell us what is in our best interests. Because, other countries don't have our best interests at heart. For what it's worth, the world wants us to put Mr. Obama in office, because it's the right thing to do.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2360240.htm?section=world

"US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama may be struggling to nudge ahead of his Republican rival in polls at home, but people across the world want him in the White House, a BBC poll said.

All 22 countries covered in the poll would prefer to see Senator Obama elected US president ahead of Republican John McCain.

In 17 of the 22 nations, people expect relations between the US and the rest of the world to improve if Senator Obama wins.

More than 22,000 people were questioned by pollster GlobeScan in countries ranging from Australia to India and across Africa, Europe and South America.

The margin in favour of Senator Obama ranged from 9 per cent in India to 82 per cent in Kenya, while an average of 49 per cent across the 22 countries preferred Senator Obama compared with 12 per cent preferring Senator McCain. Some four in 10 did not take a view.

"Large numbers of people around the world clearly like what Barack Obama represents," GlobeScan chairman Doug Miller said."

Pardon me, I wish the world would let me in one the this one-"Large numbers of people around the world clearly like what Barack Obama represents," Hookay, what is it today tax hikes-no tax hikes?

I guess come November it will seen as to whether Barack should of confined his campaigning to the US instead of Europe.

onewhippedpuppy 09-09-2008 11:19 AM

89% in Kenya?! I can't imagine why..........:rolleyes:

Well, count me in with the group that could care less what the rest of the world wants for us. I'm sure they do want Obama, he's spent his time kissing the ass of foreign leaders and denouncing America. 22 countries?! Maybe they should change their name to RegionScan as opposed to GlobeScan. I'm don't think they can really represent that as a global survey, and it sure would be easy to inject bias.

legion 09-09-2008 11:21 AM

No, the rest of the world likes pretty speeches with no actions. They know with Obama as president they could walk all over us consequence-free. In fact, he'd probably put together a package of "incentives" for anyone that violated any sort of agreement with the U.S.. Of course they love him, he will give them U.S. taxpayer money as a reward for breaking treaties and such.

Rick Lee 09-09-2008 11:39 AM

If I had any doubt, I'd see this report and automatically vote for McCain.

cmccuist 09-09-2008 11:46 AM

The "world" likes leaders such as Castro, Arafat, Mugabe, Saddam, Chavez, and Jimmy Carter.

Rikao4 09-09-2008 11:48 AM

so countries that are either in the sh8tter, almost there ,soon to be crap...want us to follow their example..
Right.......
like Rick said..

Rika

Rick Lee 09-09-2008 12:11 PM

For Labor Day Weekend I visted my aunt and uncle in Yuma. They are hardcore Christian conservatives. Their son-in-law is to the left of Kucinich and can't go a minute without vocalizing it. The next morning, somewhat hurt by all the politcal arguing the previous night, my uncle lamented to me, "You know. He doesn't approve of anything we do." I replied, "Then you should take comfort in knowing that you're always doing the right thing."

That's how I see it when the rest of the world gets on the bandwagon about what the U.S. should do. Whatever they want is the opposite of the right path for the U.S.

Mule 09-09-2008 12:11 PM

They're welcome to him!

TheMentat 09-09-2008 12:16 PM

People in other countries generally like Obama for the same reasons that about half of your country does:

- Some of them are aware of the issues, and identify with his political ideology (much of the world is generally to the left of the "American center").

- The remainder however are quite ignorant of the issues, and probably just go for the more charismatic guy.

For what it's worth, I think a lot of foreigners are responding to the question based on the candidate they actually prefer, rather than on self interest. In Canada, which is generally to the left of the "American center", I think a lot of people would answer the question in favor of Obama. However, as a huge trading partner with the US that benefits from the heavy lifting done by its military, we would generally benefit more with McCain.

BeyGon 09-09-2008 12:19 PM

But would any of them let Obama rule their country, oh hell no.

Christien 09-09-2008 12:20 PM

Perhaps an outsiders perspective:

Whether you or any other country likes it or not, the US economy has a drastic effect on economies of other countries, so don't think for a second that other countries don't have a vested interest in your well being.

The last few years of GWB have seen the American economy go down the crapper, and that's taken a lot of non-US people and companies with it. People oustide the US want that to change. Ergo, a different party.

I can already hear everyone going on about how Obama will run up the deficit worse than GWB, run the country's economy into the ground with his whacko socialist policies, etc etc etc. But the rest of the world sees McCain as a continuation of GWB. True or not, that doesn't matter, that's how he's viewed. You may not like it, you may disagree, but it's true.

Christien 09-09-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 4170126)
But would any of them let Obama rule their country, oh hell no.

Not true. I've read several op-ed columns, letters to the editor, polls, etc. indicating that many Canadians would vote for Obama if he were running in our upcoming federal election. Compared to the alternatives currently with their hat in the ring, I sure would.

red-beard 09-09-2008 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmshepard (Post 4169987)
But...But...the world wants the One.

If they want him so bad, can we just give him to them? Secretary Generalisimo of the UN, maybe ?

He can"t do anyone more harm there, than anyone else.... :p

Rikao4 09-09-2008 12:54 PM

the UN is for big time crooks,

their looking for folks that screw their own people..
wait..O does fit the bill

SNL..nevermind

Rika

sammyg2 09-09-2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christien (Post 4170132)
Perhaps an outsiders perspective:
The last few years of GWB have seen the American economy go down the crapper .

Please expand on that notion. Let us know what you are refering to when you say that. Specifics please. Maybe you overheard it? Maybe you dreamed it up?


The bottom line is our economy is still very strong, it has not gone down the crapper. It is strong and sucessful and canada is sucking the US's hind teat to survive.
The rest of the world can go pack sand. I don't care what they think, it doesn't matter.
Most of them are either living off of us and still have their hands out, or they hate us and resent our success. Either way, they can go hang out in the sand box unless the cat tries to bury them.

island911 09-09-2008 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mule (Post 4170108)
They're welcome to him!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 4170126)
But would any of them let Obama rule their country, oh hell no.

Spot on.

BeyGon 09-09-2008 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christien (Post 4170135)
Not true. I've read several op-ed columns, letters to the editor, polls, etc. indicating that many Canadians would vote for Obama if he were running in our upcoming federal election. Compared to the alternatives currently with their hat in the ring, I sure would.

But you are already socialist, not a change for you.

Zef 09-09-2008 01:24 PM

You should know that ROW is stupid...No...?

Chuck Moreland 09-09-2008 01:28 PM

This is sorta like like asking the the Green Bay Packers who they want to be head coach of the Chicago Bears. They want the worst man for the job!


If Americans could select the next leader of Russia, China, Iran.....

Would they choose strong leaders that would make those countries into economic and military powerhouses.....

Or would they choose weak leaders for those countries ....

Rick Lee 09-09-2008 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zef (Post 4170252)
You should know that ROW is stupid...No...?

Not necessarily, but they certainly don't have our best interests at heart.

Ever hear the saying, "Never take financial advice from anyone who isn't better off than you are."? That's how I feel about other countries telling us what's best for us.


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