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targa911S 09-09-2008 06:48 PM

New ground hog wacker
 
Howa 1500 in .22-250. Of course this not my real gun but a factory photo. I will post pics tomorrow along with the A bolt I just restocked. Shot it today and for out of the box it shot nice tight groups about 1.5 or so. Looks like a keeper. Tomorrow if it stops raining I will see if I can send a few hogs to heaven. I dumped my CZ 550 POS.


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red-beard 09-09-2008 08:51 PM

That reminds me, I need a Ruger 10-22

Rick Lee 09-09-2008 09:12 PM

Why did you not like your CZ 550? I found one at a gun show that gave me the tingles in my spine, but I couldn't make the trade work for my Sig Pro. A few minutes later I scored a real nice Remington model 700 instead, which I love. but that CZ was gorgeous. I'm curious to hear what's wrong with them.

targa911S 09-10-2008 04:35 AM

Well.....beauty doesn't mean it's accurate. I bought a CZ 55FS full stock version with the Manlicher style wood. Beautiful gun. Even after I bedded it though with all that wood when it warmed up it got a mind of it's own. The first three shots were always in say a 2" group but then after that it could miss the paper all together or at the very least be all over the paper. As a short range brush gun it would have been fine. A good deer rifle in .243. But I don't hunt deer..soooo it was not a good choice for what I shoot which is targets and ground hogs at 200 yrds.or so. It sure was pretty though. This gun, although not as sexy, is more what I need to get what I want done. I HAVE heard good things about the CZ 550 American though in their defense. Mine was a situation of the wrong gun for the job.

Your 700 is pretty much the gold standard around here for deer, and rock solid. I would have gone with a big green myself if not for the fact I wanted a .22-250 which is a little hard to find these days for some reason. What cal. is yours?

targa911S 09-10-2008 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4171092)
That reminds me, I need a Ruger 10-22

Looked Ruger .22-250's also but this was more gun for the same money.

Rick Lee 09-10-2008 06:15 AM

Mine is .30-06. What do you mean by bedding it through wood?

targa911S 09-10-2008 06:23 AM

You take the action out and acraglas the receiver and action so it does not move under shooting pressure. You use a release agent so you can remove it of course so it's not like welded to the stock. It takes all the "slop" out of the whole action and ties it all together as one. This article tells the story.
I love 30-06. Around here it's so prevalent you can like borrow it from your neighbor like a cup of sugar!

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/gunsmithing/bedding_0304/index.html

legion 09-10-2008 06:32 AM

That looks a lot like my Savage 93R. (In .17 HMR.)

My wife won't let me shoot rabbits. :(

Rick Lee 09-10-2008 06:38 AM

Hmmm. I don't know anything about that stuff, but my Remingon has a walnut stock. So maybe it's all set for a while.

targa911S 09-10-2008 06:53 AM

Actually a wood stock SHOULD be done. A lot more "give" to wood and because it is not injection molded the tolerances are not as exact.

targa911S 09-10-2008 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion (Post 4171563)
That looks a lot like my Savage 93R. (In .17 HMR.)

My wife won't let me shoot rabbits. :(

The action on this is the same as the Weatherby Vanguard. It just has a Boyds stock on it from the factory.

Rick Lee 09-10-2008 06:54 AM

I thought the article said that walnut stocks were stiffer, depending on the wood grain. At this point, I'd be happy to just get her sighted in at 100 yds. and reliaby do decent groups.

Jeff Higgins 09-10-2008 07:00 AM

Very nice. Just the ticket for thinning those crop munching hoards of fat little fuzz balls. The .22-250 is one of the all-time great calibers for this kind of work, that's for sure. What kind of glass did you hang on it?

targa911S 09-10-2008 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 4171639)
Very nice. Just the ticket for thinning those crop munching hoards of fat little fuzz balls. The .22-250 is one of the all-time great calibers for this kind of work, that's for sure. What kind of glass did you hang on it?

I hung a cheapo Tasco World class mil dot 6-24x42 on it. I have used them for a while and they have served me well. I just can't justify the $$ for a Leupold or Swarovski and the likes.

targa911S 09-10-2008 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4171627)
I thought the article said that walnut stocks were stiffer, depending on the wood grain. At this point, I'd be happy to just get her sighted in at 100 yds. and reliaby do decent groups.

You may be having problems because it is not bedded. Your problem is a classic case for it. You have all the signs, unless of course you are old like me and can't hold the damn thing still anymore. I consider it S.O.P. when I get a new rifle. I will do the Howa also.

Here are some pics of the trio of death. Top is the Howa. middle is my Browning A Bolt in 25-06, and the bottom is my brother in laws Rem in 22-250. I restocked the Brwng and bob's Rem with unfinished stocks from Boydes. I tried to reproduce the Browning high gloss on it. However it's really glossy, too glossy, so I will take some rottenstone to it so you don't have to wear shades when you shoot it. You could signal aircraft with it the way it is now.


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vash 09-10-2008 08:05 AM

wow. those are fantastic. i am not a big fan of the thumb hole stocks.

i am kinda rough on my rifles. walking and hiking the hillsides put them (and myself) through the ringer.

i had my ought six glass bedded, and the barrel free floated. it is a pre 64 winny. i should have probably left it alone. it shoots better, but maybe i damaged the resale value of my rifle. with my handloads, i can clover leaf three shot groups all day. now i just buy the ammo and shoot at things. i dont obsess.

my biggest rifle regret was to sell my ruger M77, in 22-250. that thing would reach out and touch a jackrabbit...hard. because of that rifle, i never miss on big game anymore.

targa911S 09-10-2008 08:14 AM

that is the divide between collectors and shooters. Collectors don't always know what shoots good and I'm a collector also so I speak from experience. I believe you did the right thing on your Mdl 70. The key words there are "it shoots better". Bottom line.

Yes selling the 77 was a mistake. ;-(

Burnin' oil 09-10-2008 08:25 AM

Poor little ground hogs.

Rick Lee 09-10-2008 08:40 AM

So is this glass bedding totally DIY'able? My problem is that I have almost no bolt-action big rifle experience. I think I know how to hold it still. I'm excellent with all my handguns and .22 long guns. I have the elevation right on my Remington. But now matter what I do with windage, I'm always off to the right by a few inches at 100 yrd., less so at 50, but still off.

gtc 09-10-2008 08:40 AM

It looks pretty nice. Do you mind if I ask how much you paid?

vash 09-10-2008 08:45 AM

i know some folks DIY glassbedding. i dont think i can do it. the approach describe above is spot on. you need to secure the action, and leave the barrel free. i would glue the thing togther permanently. that releasing agent is super important. sorry, i cannot remember how much i paid.

your rifle may already be free floated. can a dollar bill be inserted the entire length of the barrel? you can buy a aftermarket stock that has alum inserts bedded into the contact points. i believe that gives the same benefits?

targa911S 09-10-2008 10:01 AM

Rick, yes you can do this. If I can you can. I will PM you my phone # and give me a call if you like and i'll walk you thru it.

The Howa was tagged at $679.00. I got it FOR $50.00 and my CZ.

plus the state, plus phone call, plus sight rings and mounts, plus two boxes of ammo.

Rick Lee 09-10-2008 10:28 AM

I got my Remington for my SIG Pro 2340 plus $150 cash. The SIG was probably worth $400-$450, but I absolutely stole it for $440 and a ton of extras and ammo. So I really had around $200 into it and so have about $350 into the rifle. Five min. after I got it, another guy offered me $700 for it and I could have done that and then gone right back to buy the CZ. But I had that voice telling me "this is my rifle, there are many like it, but this one is mine." When I get that feeling about something, I know to never let it go.

targa911S 09-10-2008 10:42 AM

yup.

911boost 09-10-2008 11:43 AM

Very nice. I am just finishing building my 22-250 pdog gun. I started with a Stephen's SA in 22-250 (with the exception of the accu-trigger) its the same as the Savage. I bought the Stock and new Douglas XX barrel from Sharp Shooter Supply.

The stock is slick, adjustable comb, laminate.

Bill

targa911S 09-10-2008 04:37 PM

Wow! That's quite a rifle! Way over my head on knowledge of rifles. Just learning my way around them. I've always had a shotgun, but growing up in Ohio, you can't hunt with a rifle in most areas so I never had any experience with them. Now that I have moved here to tractorfordchevyville in W. PA. two years ago, I'm learning a whole new kind of shooting that I enjoy a lot. I'm really not a hunter, but I go out "Hoggin" with my brother in law who is a farmer. Beans and corn, acres of it. When I saw what those lil bastards do to a bean field....it was fare game. Livestock can break legs in the holes plus it makes it hard for the combine to get over. They really are a nuisance. We have taken 27 this year so for from just one small field of his. I love my .25-06 but we're not shooting 400 yrds. I just thought it was over kill. Now some of these boys are big but not deer size!

I have to tell ya'll that I went out with it tonight and the first bullet down the barrel was a kill at about 100 yrds. Right where I put the shot! Nice!

fast924S 09-10-2008 06:58 PM

Whats a good shot gun for home defense?? I would like to get one.

Rick Lee 09-10-2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast924S (Post 4173230)
Whats a good shot gun for home defense?? I would like to get one.

I have a Mossberg Mariner 12 ga. by the bed. I need a taclight on it.

legion 09-10-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast924S (Post 4173230)
Whats a good shot gun for home defense?? I would like to get one.

Whatever you are comfortable and/or competent shooting. Most people prefer a short-barreled shotgun or a handgun.


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