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targa911S 10-01-2008 07:24 PM

Another gun show find!
 
$50.00!!!! Based on the proof marks I believe it's an English 12 ga shotgun. Probably made in the late 1800's. $50.00!! I'm dyin' here!
It should clean up nicely. I'll post when I'm done doin' my magic.

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Racerbvd 10-01-2008 07:29 PM

$50 with that kind of detail:eek::eek:

Sweet, hope it doesn't burn your hands:p

Porsche-O-Phile 10-01-2008 07:30 PM

Pretty piece!

targa911S 10-01-2008 07:32 PM

Thanks! The guy thought it was German and said " It's a wall hanger you can have it for $50.00" all I heard was $50.00. I saw that damascus type of crolle' and reached into the pocket. I don't turn down ANY double shotgun for $50.00.

craigster59 10-01-2008 08:01 PM

That's a score! Is the action tight? Vintagers would snap that up quick. Haven't heard of Saxton, but there might be something in the old "Doublegun Journals". How are the bores?

Jim Bremner 10-01-2008 08:06 PM

there's several bore's on here!....ooops


just make sure that the barrel will handle modern ammo!

targa911S 10-01-2008 08:20 PM

Yes tight action. Although the bores are PERFECT I won't be shooting it any time soon. This what we know so far from the the DGJ forum.
"Birmingham post 1887 with the rhombus with a "12" over "C" and upto 1896. Probably closer to 1887 with the large strikers."

Black powder proofed only. No nitro stuff although you could prolly shoot low pressure, say 7,000 PSI stuff with Birmingham proofing. So it really is a wall hanger but it will look nice in the collection. Truly a find.

Rick Lee 10-01-2008 08:52 PM

That would have gotten you a $100 gift card at the last Phoenix gun buyback. I'll give you $100 for it.

Tim Hancock 10-02-2008 04:29 AM

What is the game plan? You gonna re-finish it to look new, or just clean and polish a bit? I quess it will depend on how rare/valuable it is. Nice find!!!

targa911S 10-02-2008 04:43 AM

Thanks Tim, sometimes ya just get lucky. This one that I think needs to stay original. I took it all apart and cleaned it up good with oil and 0000 wool to get the rust off the locks and hammers. The wood, I just cleaned with orange oil and it bounced right back. I did refinish/rust, the barrels in traditional black and white to bring that pretty damascus pattern out. It looks great without destroying the original look of it. All it really needed was some TLC and a barrel rusting.

id10t 10-02-2008 05:04 AM

Sweet. Thought I had a deal at last weekends show... sold my AK and a cheap 357 revolver, bought a nice Fausti O/U in 20 ga w/ removable chokes, and came home with $275 in my pocket...

Tishabet 10-02-2008 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 4214148)
This one that I think needs to stay original.

+1, love the patina. Great score!

SXSMAN 10-02-2008 08:48 AM

Most decent " wall-hangers " around here start at around $300 .

Nice find .

Very nice .

SxS

targa911S 10-02-2008 08:50 AM

Thanks. It'll look good with my W W Greener. The only two Brit guns I own.

tabs 10-02-2008 12:30 PM

Many British and Belgium mass manufactured SXS were imported into the USA in the 19th century as a low cost double gun. Once in the States they had a propriety name applied and sold as such. The trick with these guns is to find one with a American West connection such as Carlos Gove of Denver retailer stamped on it. Then you would truly have something.

Also during this time period many manufacturers of lower cost doubles bought barrel sets from the Brits and Bellgies...which were then made into shotguns under their own names. I have a Percussion SXS shotgun made by James Bown aka Enterprise Gun Works of Pittsburg that has 35 inch barrels, where the barrels say "Superior English Twist" on them.

BTW Targa did ya ever get those LC SMITH SxS's....can ya at least tell us what they were so I can droooool. I would sorley like to come up with a 20 GA in one of the higher grades. Maybe a 410? I had recently bought a Parker Repro DHE 2 barrel set in 28 GA for substantially under 5. I also have a Elsie Trap Grade 12 GA with 3" chambers,"LONG RANGE" wt 30" barrels & SST made about 1925 wt factory letter. This is a very rare combination.

At $50 how can you go wrong?

Seahawk 10-02-2008 12:36 PM

Nice, Dave.

On your travels if you come across a field grade double barrel call me on my cell (I'll PM).

BTW, the little .25 you showed us how to clean up is working great:)

All the best.

targa911S 10-02-2008 12:38 PM

Paul...what ga.?

tabs 10-02-2008 12:49 PM

Also Seahawk...will ya settle for Damcus Barrels? Or do ya want fluid steel.

Best advice is to buy the best name you can afford. Parker, Elsie, Fox, Lefever, Ithica, Winchester....not only will you have a shooter but an appreciating asset.

RWebb 10-02-2008 02:05 PM

dayum!

w that pattern the chance it is a repro is nil

targa911S 10-02-2008 02:21 PM

tabs . we missed out on the elsies some big $$ guy came in and scooped em up pronto! I'm sure Paul is looking for a shooter. he has been to my house!

Seahawk 10-02-2008 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 4214997)
Paul...what ga.?

I shoot'em all, Dave...I'm just riding your prop wash on this. Your esthetic in this realm means more than the gauge:)

Edit: Tabs, I follow all your gun posts and admire your eye as well, but a wouldn't know a damascus barrel from الشام ash-Shām!

Racerbvd 10-02-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 4214551)
Thanks. It'll look good with my W W Greener. The only two Brit guns I own.

Big Jakes's favorite:D



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targa911S 10-02-2008 03:24 PM

Yeah I have heard it was his favorite make of gun.

Paul you're looking for a shooter ..right? Do you want a "project " gun to work on or do you want one that is ready to go? Will this be for you or Jack. I have a Stevens 311 in 20 ga. that all the mechanics are good and the barrels are perfect, but the wood is crap and needs to be replaced. Drastic I know but originally it was tennite (plastic) and somebody tried to replace it with the wrong stock and butchered it in the process. If you want a good reliable, affordable, gun that will increase in value I would suggest a Savage/Stevens/Fox model BSE. They can still be had at a very good price (under $500.00) and the Fox name added to the frame has been making them steadily go up in value. They were made in every ga. Bring a wheelbarrow of money if you want a .410! If your looking for a "big boys gun" I would look at SKB 200E's around $1,500.00

Tabs is WAY above me in his knowledge of collectable guns. I'm a pudknocker basement gunsmith.

Seahawk 10-02-2008 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by targa911S (Post 4215289)
Yeah I have heard it was his favorite make of gun.

Paul you're looking for a shooter ..right? Do you want a "project " gun to work on or do you want one that is ready to go? Will this be for you or Jack. I have a Stevens 311 in 20 ga. that all the mechanics are good and the barrels are perfect, but the wood is crap and needs to be replaced. Drastic I know but originally it was tennite (plastic) and somebody tried to replace it with the wrong stock and butchered it in the process. If you want a good reliable, affordable, gun that will increase in value I would suggest a Savage/Stevens/Fox model BSE. They can still be had at a very good price (under $500.00) and the Fox name added to the frame has been making them steadily go up in value. They were made in every ga. Bring a wheelbarrow of money if you want a .410! If your looking for a "big boys gun" I would look at SKB 200E's around $1,500.00

Tabs is WAY above me in his knowledge of collectable guns. I'm a pudknocker basement gunsmith.

Shooter, Dave. If you come across a reasonable double, let me know. I have almost all other configurations of shotguns...under $500 is bueno:)

BTW, it's for me...the boy can save up:cool:


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