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Dan in Pasadena 10-03-2008 07:46 AM

Another Jeffrey Dahmer in the Making Breaks into Zoo
 
Check out the link.

A 7 year old boy breaks into a zoo and crushes lizards and turtles to death and feeds live animals to a crocodile all for fun:eek: This kid is a psychopath and a monster. What does society do with a true monster-in-the-making like this?

Not to mention, WHAT THE EFF is a 7 year old boy doing running around without supervision?

Sue the parents, yeah fine. they deserve it but what the hell to do (no, really...we're not allowed to feed HIM to the croc!) with the kid?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27005221/

legion 10-03-2008 07:51 AM

While I disagree with the trend in this country of overpunishing kids (for example, making a 7-year old register as a sex offender because he kissed his "girlfriend" on the playground), I also disagree with the idea of shielding real monsters (like this kid) from any punishment because of their age.

Rick Lee 10-03-2008 08:39 AM

Some folks are just wired wrong, will never ever be set straight and need to be separated from society. Luckily, this kid has been identified at a young age. I doubt much will happen to him, but he should be locked away in reform school until he's 18. Sure, he'll commit a crime immediately upon release and should then have the book thrown at him. Like sexual predators, they are only enabled by getting released from custody. There is no rehabilitating such folks.

notfarnow 10-03-2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4216638)
Some folks are just wired wrong, will never ever be set straight and need to be separated from society. Luckily, this kid has been identified at a young age. I doubt much will happen to him, but he should be locked away in reform school until he's 18. Sure, he'll commit a crime immediately upon release and should then have the book thrown at him. Like sexual predators, they are only enabled by getting released from custody. There is no rehabilitating such folks.

My wife is a child protection social worker; she sees these kids when they are 3-4 yrs old and you know something just isn't *quite right*, even before they start acting out. They're broken. Sometimes it's because of stuff they were subjected to, sometimes it's a "wiring" issue... but they're broken.

Heel n Toe 10-03-2008 08:57 AM

Scary stuff.

Jake, do you know if for the ones with "stuff they were subjected to," could they be "unbroken" with electroshock therapy?

I seriously doubt if "the state" could impose that on a kid... just curious.

Rikao4 10-03-2008 09:09 AM

nah, we use lethal injection now...
no worries, his name will surface again..

Rika

notfarnow 10-03-2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4216672)
Scary stuff.

Jake, do you know if for the ones with "stuff they were subjected to," could they be "unbroken" with electroshock therapy?

I seriously doubt if "the state" could impose that on a kid... just curious.

Heck if I know, I just hear about the stuff from my wife. I'll ask her about that, much of her program centered around therapeutic approaches, but also discussed older hardcore stuff like that.

They had a kid last year, about 6 yrs old, who was burning the neighborhood cats in a metal garbage can. Mom knew but was hiding it, stepdad found out and brought him in.

What do you do with a 6 yr old who likes to burn cats alive? I yi yi

Rikao4 10-03-2008 09:16 AM

you throw him and Mom in a dumpters and set in on fire.
Rika

Jim Bremner 10-03-2008 09:22 AM

I'm really torn on this. The Kid is a MONSTER.

do we take him from his parents?

Do we have a counseler with him 24/7

Do we do nothing?

Do we place a tracking device on him?

Glad it's not my problem.

RWebb 10-03-2008 09:31 AM

kids who abuse animals often turn into adults who abuse kids...

this kid needs therapy - at a minimum -- it may work; if not, then some of the mode draconian ideas above need to ne employed

Rick Lee 10-03-2008 09:35 AM

Has any kid like this ever been cured? I'd really like to know. I highly doubt it. Has a sexual predator ever decided to go straight after getting out of the joint?

Dan in Pasadena 10-03-2008 10:02 AM

Its the collective societal impotence that makes me crazy about things like this. Virtually everyone but this kid's parents and maybe some extended relatives (and even some of them probably won't let him in their houses after this) know this kid is a monster. Obviously, you can't execute this kid, you can't put him in any hospital or jail for the rest of his life. He is going to grown up and at some point soon begin to experience sexual urges...but what kind will they be? Sends a chill down my spine because you just KNOW this isn't the only kid like this out there. There are just too damned many of us for there to be only this one.

The expression, "how bad could he be, he's only a kid" doesn't apply to this kid AT ALL.

RWebb 10-03-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 4216759)
Has any kid like this ever been cured? I'd really like to know. I highly doubt it. Has a sexual predator ever decided to go straight after getting out of the joint?

yes to both -- if you mean absence of add'l offenses

Buckterrier 10-03-2008 10:49 AM

Do to the kid what the apes did to the astronauts in Planet of the Apes. Was it a frontal lobotomy? Then give him back to his parents to care for, they spawned him. I think we should take a collection right here at pelican for the cost. In fact I've always wanted to go to the Connecticut School of Brain Surgery, maybe I could give it a go.

livi 10-03-2008 10:49 AM

Typical psychopath pattern. Too bad he did not trip and fall into the croc pound himself.

Tim Hancock 10-03-2008 10:52 AM

hmmm, I guess it would not be wise to admit on this forum to killing insects, frogs and gardener snakes with the neighbor kids as a youth.

widgeon13 10-03-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 4216928)
hmmm, I guess it would not be wise to admit on this forum to killing insects, frogs and gardener snakes with the neighbor kids as a youth.

I won't admit anything, I was young and impressionable.

sammyg2 10-03-2008 12:00 PM

Dude, Psychopath? not even. He's from Australia. That's how they are down there ;)

j/k

}{arlequin 10-03-2008 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 4216923)
Typical psychopath pattern. Too bad he did not trip and fall into the croc pound himself.

i was thinking it would be funny if he just fed himself to the croc afterwards

HardDrive 10-03-2008 09:33 PM

Sickening.

Not sure what to say. I grew up hunting, and when I was young I took some pot shots a chipmunks and birds for no reason. But I sure as hell knew I was doing something wrong when I did it. Anything else we shot, we ate (errrr.....well, perhaps not the squirrels). Dunno. I have hunted my whole life, and yet I can never imagine smashing something to death with a rock. I remember friends using a magnifying glass to fry ants and thinking that it was wrong.

Somewhere out there (please don't call on me to define it) there in an ethical code to killing, and this kid doesn't have it. And if he doesn't have it at age 7, I seriously doubt he ever will.

Dan in Pasadena 10-03-2008 10:09 PM

HardDrive, This kid was killing for "entertainment", nothing else. What kid has that sadistic drive and one that is strong enough to act on it at that young age? MONSTER

Embraer 10-03-2008 11:20 PM

This kid is sick...but it helps to remind me of one of my neighbors my freshman year of college.

I lived in the "International" housing at college (due to construction in the regular dorms, they moved me into an Asian grad student neighborhood)

Anyway, one of my neighbors (an old Chinese man who was the grandfather of a student) would go outside everytime after it rained to gently remove earthworms off of the sidewalk, so people wouldn't step on them. pretty darn cool.

widgeon13 10-04-2008 03:05 AM

In my youth, I certainly remember doing mischievous things that I knew were wrong but I still did them, I grew out of that. This kid doesn't seem to have the capacity to know the difference between right and wrong.

dewolf 10-04-2008 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4217081)
Dude, Psychopath? not even. He's from Australia. That's how they are down there ;)

j/k

Sorry, there's more psychos where your from..............dude!

Noah930 10-04-2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 4216923)
Typical psychopath pattern. Too bad he did not trip and fall into the croc pound himself.

Yes, but then the taxpayers would be on the hook for some multimillion dollar wrongful death lawsuit. Or at least that's what would happen in America.

Tim Hancock 10-04-2008 04:39 PM

I have heard many here claim they would smash a snake in a hearbeat. Some have probably thrown a live mouse into a pet snakes cage. Many have probably put a live minnow or worm on a hook, then fed it a fish that they clubbed in the head after catching. While this story is bizarre in that a kid that young figured out how to get into the zoo and killed expensive/rare reptiles, I don't know if it warrants throwing the kid into the croc as some seem to think would be a fair punishment.

I sure hope all of you guys who think killing an animal is a criminal offense, feel just as strongly about aborting babies. ;)

Noah930 10-04-2008 05:08 PM

Fair point, Tim. After all, the kid's just a kid. Who knows what he will truly be like as an adult.

But at the same time, it would be a terrible shame (for both the kid, and whomever his victims wind up being down the road) if something like this just gets swept under the rug by his parents, and they take no precautions during his upbringing.

And Where TF are his parents that he can go gallivanting around unsupervised for half an hour at the zoo and they're not around?!

red911sc 10-04-2008 05:12 PM

This is what he could become...

http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Dillon_Thomas_159148958.aspx

Here is a another story of his final kills

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/Midwest/10/22/ohio.sniper/index.html

I originally saw this in a book called "Wierd Ohio"

azasadny 10-04-2008 05:52 PM

Feed the kid and his parents to the crocodile...

slakjaw 10-05-2008 07:28 AM

?
He killed lizards.. Whats the big deal with that?

slakjaw 10-05-2008 07:32 AM

I dont think that smashing a lizards head with a rock tells us anything about who he will become.

TheMentat 10-05-2008 08:20 AM

I'm gonna plug a TV series that deals with this sort of thing in a clever way...

Dexter

Its a Showtime series, and its great!

VaSteve 10-05-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slakjaw (Post 4219794)
I dont think that smashing a lizards head with a rock tells us anything about who he will become.


It's about context.

A 7 year old breaks into a zoo and kills a bunch of animals and you don't see that there is something wrong with him? Get your head examined.


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