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M.D. Holloway 10-20-2008 01:49 PM

GM Bans Unscheduled Overtime
 
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GM Bans Unscheduled Overtime
By Tom Krisher, AP Auto Writer
Manufacturing.Net - October 20, 2008


DETROIT (AP) -- General Motors Corp. has told local union officials at two factories that it will not allow any more unscheduled overtime. That could help the automaker further cut costs as it burns through $1 billion in cash every month.

The officials at factories in Orion Township, Mich., and Lordstown, Ohio, say they were told of the ban Friday. They didn't know if it affects just their plants or if it is companywide.

A GM spokesman said Monday that the company has not told employees of any ban but is looking at ways to conserve cash.

The Orion Township and Lordstown plants make small and midsize cars, including the Chevrolet Malibu and Cobalt, and the Pontiac G5 and G6. Those have been some of GM's hottest-selling cars, even as the auto industry's U.S. sales overall fall by double digits.
It is the beginning of the end. You know how this will play out.

This concept is actually in a book I am working on...

Porsche-O-Phile 10-20-2008 01:52 PM

First step in controlling costs. Something that's been a foreign concept at GM up until now...

dd74 10-20-2008 01:55 PM

The Unions will be all over this...

strupgolf 10-20-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4250094)
The Unions will be all over this...

And that's a big part of the problem.

Rick V 10-20-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by strupgolf (Post 4250519)
And that's a big part of the problem.

Uh-huh.

legion 10-20-2008 06:23 PM

I think even the unions realize this is a matter of something or nothing.

onewhippedpuppy 10-20-2008 06:25 PM

Not sure why this is shocking, most companies try to avoid paying their employees overtime. GM is hurting financially, it is a logical step. Can you imagine how expensive 1.5x or 2x pay is for union employees?

David 10-21-2008 04:30 AM

This seems like a no-brainer. It's not like they're rushing to get vehicles out the door so why would they need any overtime?

Porsche-O-Phile 10-21-2008 04:34 AM

It's a step in the right direction but sadly I think it's too little too late. The only thing that will save the U.S. auto industry is the complete dismantling of the UAW and allowing the automakers to shed their pension obligations. This will NEVER happen. Because of this, eventual failure (or more likely, buyout) of the industry is a virtual certainty.

lendaddy 10-21-2008 05:13 AM

If the general public had any idea what the unions get away with they would go nuts.

They just announced that the plant here in GR is closing next year. Care to guess what the severance (only the cash portion) is?

legion 10-21-2008 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4251292)
If the general public had any idea what the unions get away with they would go nuts.

Does it involve a vacuum cleaner?

IROC 10-21-2008 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4251244)
It's a step in the right direction but sadly I think it's too little too late.

Yeah, they should have started this around 1978.

My FIL is a salesman at a Chevy/Cadillac dealership. We talked this past weekend about "business" at the dealership. Basically, there is none.

lendaddy 10-21-2008 05:54 AM

No one wants to guess on the cash severance? Come on, it's fun :D

David 10-21-2008 06:09 AM

Four weeks pay per year of service?

lendaddy 10-21-2008 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 125shifter (Post 4251415)
Four weeks pay per year of service?

Nope.

lendaddy 10-21-2008 06:34 AM

Ok, no one else wants to play.

The answer is four years pay at 85%.

That is years....not months.

Big Ed 10-21-2008 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4251482)
Ok, no one else wants to play.

The answer is four years pay at 85%.

That is years....not months.

******* hell. Wonder why they are hemorrhaging so much cash?

lendaddy 10-21-2008 07:19 AM

Yep, the base pay here (this is from a couple years ago)for skilled jobs was $35 an hour and $25 an hour for unskilled (I think those are the three guys at the welcome gate).

So even without OT or vacation or other "extras" these guys are getting $247,520. and the three guys at the gate are getting $208,000

onewhippedpuppy 10-21-2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4251598)
Yep, the base pay here (this is from a couple years ago)for skilled jobs was $35 an hour and $25 an hour for unskilled (I think those are the three guys at the welcome gate).

So even without OT or vacation or other "extras" these guys are getting $247,520. and the three guys at the gate are getting $208,000

Rough life, huh? I see the same thing in Wichita with the aerospace industry. With $40k in college student loans, I love seeing the blue collar guys go on strike protesting the fact that they get higher pay and better benefits than I do.:rolleyes:

IROC 10-21-2008 08:07 AM

One of my favorite stories is from back when I graduated from college and was working as a mechanical engineer for TVA. I was making $28k a year and thought I was rich (this was 1987). We had a secretary in our group who was right out of high school. Her boyfriend was also right out of high school and had no marketable skills. About this time, GM was building the Saturn plant in Spring Hill, TN. Our secretary's boyfriend ended up getting a job at the Saturn plant as a "helper" (totally non-skilled, entry-level go-fer type of position) in the paint department for over $30k a year. Blew my mind.


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