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Jeff Higgins 10-23-2008 12:36 PM

Godwits
 
Pretty amazing birds we have here, these Godwits. Or "Bar-Tailed Godwits" to be more precise. Seems they have been flying from Alaska to New Zealand in the course of their migration. Non stop, actually, out over the sea. The more industrious of the lot, anyway. That means they fly up to nine continuous, uninterrupted days, without rest. The lower achievers only make it four or five days, and stop for a spell to "refuel" for several weeks at a time. The truly hearty, howver, make it in one leg.

Their metabolic output while in flight can be 8-10 times their base metabolic rate. They keep this up for days on end without food or rest. As a point of reference, Lance's metabolic rate probably approached six times his base metabolic rate while on the toughest climbs of the Tour. And he got to eat and sleep every day...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/animal-science/news/article.cfm?c_id=332&objectid=10462874

M.D. Holloway 10-23-2008 12:40 PM

Overachievers

kstar 10-23-2008 12:41 PM

They sound like certain Swifts, which fly constantly for years.

Bill Douglas 10-23-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 4257114)
Alaska to New Zealand


It's a long flight. I don't know why they don't go to Sydney on the way. I always do.

Nathans_Dad 10-23-2008 12:54 PM

I believe they are a cousin to the rare North American GodBotherer

RPKESQ 10-23-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar (Post 4257132)
They sound like certain Swifts, which fly constantly for years.

I'm not sure just what you are trying to say here.

But Swifts (family Apodidae) perch on vertical surfaces and nest. So they do not fly "constantly for years". Some Swifts do mate in flight (now that is truely "a flying f*ck"!), but they all spend considerable time each day at rest.

If I have misunderstood your statement, just ignore my correction.

kstar 10-23-2008 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 4257200)
I'm not sure just what you are trying to say here.

But Swifts (family Apodidae) perch on vertical surfaces and nest. So they do not fly "constantly for years". Some Swifts do mate in flight (now that is truely "a flying f*ck"!), but they all spend considerable time each day at rest.

If I have misunderstood your statement, just ignore my correction.

I think I mistakenly said "swift" when perhaps I meant "tern".

FWIW.

edit: From a quick Google, looks like my recollection of "years" was off a bit, too. Guess I am bird brained.

widebody911 10-23-2008 01:58 PM

Am I the only one who read that as 'godtwits'?

john walker's workshop 10-23-2008 02:02 PM

i though it was the wrong forum for a sec.

ChkbookMechanic 10-23-2008 05:51 PM

That is damn impressive to make that long of a flight but I find another New Zealand native bird a much more impressive at long distance flight: the Royal Albatross, they spend close to 90% of their life out at sea.

kstar 10-23-2008 06:06 PM

How about high flying birds?

I just looked this up and it appears the Bar-headed Goose wins, based upon "routine" altitudes.

Quote:

The Bar-headed Goose is believed to be the highest flying bird having been seen at up to 10175 m (33,382 feet). It has a slightly larger wing area for its weight than other geese and it is believed this helps the goose to fly so high
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar-headed_Goose

I did find a report of a jet airplane hitting a vulture at ~37,000 feet. Not sure how they determined it was a vulture? Vulture parts on the plane?

Jeff Higgins 10-23-2008 06:44 PM

Wow, there is very little oxygen at those altitudes. One would assume they would still have to be taking in a fair quantity to be performing at that kind of work rate, regardless of stored calories to burn.

Imagine the implications if we can isolate what it is that allows these two remarkable species of birds to accomplish these feats...

So I'm starting to think if we see a significant reduction in either species - Godwits or geese - and Lance's neck is noticeably longer, and his gait becomes somewhat "bird-like" during his comeback tour next year, I'm going to be more than a little suspicious...

Joe Bob 10-23-2008 07:10 PM

http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonza..._5190/539w.jpg

RWebb 10-23-2008 08:33 PM

the metabolic scope is helped in part b/c all bird have floe-thru lungs - not the crummy tidal lung we mammals are stuck with (they mix good and bad - high co2, low o2 - air)

male birds also exemplify a light wt. philosophy - they resorb the testicles before migration

Jeff Higgins 10-24-2008 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 4258141)
male birds also exemplify a light wt. philosophy - they resorb the testicles before migration

Well then, that explains it. I'm hopelessly grounded...


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