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mcvgums 10-28-2008 10:04 AM

McQueen Salute
 
I watched "LeMans" for the first time... and the sounds were amazing, but I wondered what the 2 fingered salute from Steve at the end of the film meant. I have also seen the poster of him doing the salute...so I assume it is nothing vulgar??:confused:

RPKESQ 10-28-2008 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mcvgums (Post 4266765)
I watched "LeMans" for the first time... and the sounds were amazing, but I wondered what the 2 fingered salute from Steve at the end of the film meant. I have also seen the poster of him doing the salute...so I assume it is nothing vulgar??:confused:

It is an European gesture. It means "up yours".

sand_man 10-28-2008 10:30 AM

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pwd72s 10-28-2008 10:30 AM

Same as the single digit used here...

equality72521 10-28-2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RPKESQ (Post 4266829)
It is an European gesture. It means "up yours".

Serious? Or making a joke?

widgeon13 10-28-2008 10:40 AM

"V" for victory!

RPKESQ 10-28-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by equality72521 (Post 4266839)
Serious? Or making a joke?

From Wikipedia:

The insulting version of the gesture (with the palm inwards) is often compared to the offensive gesture known as "the finger". The "two-fingered salute", or "bowfinger",[citation needed] as it is also known, is commonly performed by flicking the V upwards from wrist or elbow. The V sign, when the palm is facing toward the person giving the sign, has long been an insulting gesture in England,[4] and later in the rest of the United Kingdom; its use is largely restricted to the UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand.[5] It is frequently used to signify defiance (especially to authority), contempt or derision,[6] and is often accompanied by the phrases "Up yours," or "**** off."

ckissick 10-28-2008 11:13 AM

In Europe, it simply means the same as the middle finger here. If you turn your hand around, palm out, it means victory, or two, as in "I'll have 2 pints, mate."

After living in England for just 1 year, that McQueen version looks immediately vulgar to me. If I do see a guy order 2 beers that way in America, it looks funny to me. Don't order that way in an Irish bar.

onlycafe 10-28-2008 11:19 AM

has to to with the french and english. the english invented the longbow,and outshot the french with it to the point that when the french could capture any english archers the french would cut off those two fingers to put them out of the archery business. [sorry for the run on sentence.]
the two finger salute was in defiance,showing", we've still got our fingers,f*ck you!"

71T Targa 10-28-2008 11:27 AM

I also remember hearing that the bow strings were made of sheep guts, and that the archers plucked their bows. So they were saying 'pluck ewe' :D

Pazuzu 10-28-2008 12:22 PM

Some of you guys need to get out of the house more often...


The two finger salute is highly effective here, because you don't get in trouble for using it.

Netspeed 10-28-2008 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 4266963)
has to to with the french and english. The english invented the longbow,and outshot the french with it to the point that when the french could capture any english archers the french would cut off those two fingers to put them out of the archery business. [sorry for the run on sentence.]
the two finger salute was in defiance,showing", we've still got our fingers,f*ck you!"

+1

Tobra 10-28-2008 06:16 PM

In the context of the film, I think it was a camaraderie thing, he earlier had told him not to be a pain in the ass when the Ferrari guy told him to be careful, though he had just run the guy from first to third, so there is always the possibility it was serious

austin552 10-28-2008 06:41 PM

Victory/FY Combo

Means love in sign language though...

trekkor 10-28-2008 06:49 PM

The film carries a "G" rating, so it's probably harmless.


KT

Bill Douglas 10-28-2008 07:52 PM

I can't believe you guys didn't know that. We have been giving Americans "the fingers" for years. Ummm, maybe that's why they always smiled and waved back.

MOMO3.2 10-28-2008 08:01 PM

onlycafe is 100% correct.

And, in the context of the film, it makes perfect sense.

Mike

rouxroux 10-28-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by onlycafe (Post 4266963)
the two finger salute was in defiance,showing", we've still got our fingers,f*ck you!"

..."And I fart in your general direction".

MattKellett 10-28-2008 08:40 PM

Robert Wuhl gives a good explanation on the origins of the "F" you sign, in the "Assume The Position" comedy special.


Matt

RPKESQ 10-28-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MOMO3.2 (Post 4268133)
onlycafe is 100% correct.

And, in the context of the film, it makes perfect sense.

Mike

This is a popular urban legend. It has no basis in historical fact. The gesture goes back to ancient times. It has nothing to do with English archers. Really, where do you people learn this nonsense?:rolleyes:


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