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dd74 11-11-2008 11:07 AM

So who will fill the void in NASCAR?
 
http://blog.mlive.com/finish_line/2008/11/general_motors_corp_and_ford.html

This article touches a bit on the lack of fear NASCAR has should GM or Ford pull out of the sport due to financial reasons. So building on that, I wonder who will fill the void. NASCAR can't just be a Toyota-only race series - or can it?

Here's my take: Mercedes enters NASCAR with their E-class. Why not? It's made in Alabama, and is more American than a Monte Carlo. Same with BMW (made in Georgia, I think). And hell, throw in Audi and Volvo, Honda, too for the FWD equivalent. They're all block-like slabs on wheels, albeit with two extra doors, but who's counting?

Either that, or the European version of stock car racing should come out here to the States. If anything, it's more interesting as those cars turn right as many times as they turn left.

pwd72s 11-11-2008 11:22 AM

Who cares about NASCAR and it's fans? They're just a bunch of backward folks clinging to their guns, their religion, and their archaic form of motor sport.

NICKG 11-11-2008 11:26 AM

yup...

the 11-11-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dd74 (Post 4296630)
Mercedes enters NASCAR with their E-class. Why not? It's made in Alabama,

Not true.

legion 11-11-2008 01:50 PM

M Class is made in Alabama.

E Class is made in Germany.

dtw 11-11-2008 02:51 PM

Don't even talk about it. The thought of NASCAR turning into a touring car series is like some sort of crazy dream come true. Real suspension? Fuggedaboutit.

dd74 11-11-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by legion (Post 4296981)
M Class is made in Alabama.

E Class is made in Germany.

Yep, you're correct. It's also assembled in Iran.

E Class Assembly is in:

Sindelfingen, Germany
Bremen, Germany
Sindelfingen, Germany, Stuttgart, Germany
Zuffenhausen, Germany
Graz, Austria
Beijing, China
Cairo, Egypt
Pekan, Malaysia
Tehran, Iran

dd74 11-11-2008 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dtw (Post 4297087)
Don't even talk about it. The thought of NASCAR turning into a touring car series is like some sort of crazy dream come true. Real suspension? Fuggedaboutit.

Real fuel injection. Real transmissions. Yeah. The France family stopped it once about twenty years ago, and sure as apple pie, they'll stop it again.

Oh Haha 11-11-2008 04:09 PM

How much cheaper would gas be if NASCAR went away altogether?

That's a lot of gas used every weekend.



Ok, that's not very fair but I have thought about how we have a fuel problem and how much gas is used by car racing.

dd74 11-11-2008 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 4297231)
Ok, that's not very fair but I have thought about how we have a fuel problem and how much gas is used by car racing.

Have you seen any of the VW Jetta TDi series? They're allowed only two tanks of fuel for the entire season.

Oh Haha 11-11-2008 04:20 PM

Yeah, I watched a couple of the Jetta races this weekend. Pretty cool series. I didn't know that about the fuel amount, though. Thanks.

afterburn 549 11-11-2008 04:25 PM

The Q. Begs a Q. What Void ??? A bunch of cars made to look like production CARS THAT ARE NOT MADE ANYWHERE...near Detroit. Never was a car. Morphodite
They suck through a carb, tun left only, and are in competition with All Star Wrestling and Modern country music. Same mentality
All about the driver doing flips off his door........please will they go away.
Hope they drown in their cheap beer

Oh Haha 11-11-2008 04:35 PM

Lots of money is made in NASCAR. I'm not a fan but being a car guy, I do like to watch the tech segments on the shows when there isn't REAl racing on.


Heck, my company is the official vending company of NASCAR.


Oh, that can't be good.

BGCarrera32 11-11-2008 07:21 PM

Mercedes in Nascar? Wrong market.

MichiganMat 11-11-2008 09:09 PM

GM in, GM out, those pussies still won't race in the rain.

dd74 11-11-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganMat (Post 4297841)
GM in, GM out, those pussies still won't race in the rain.

Actually, they did in Montreal this year.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/423144-nascar-rain.html?highlight=Nascar+rain

MichiganMat 11-11-2008 09:38 PM

I stand corrected Sir. Saw them drying the track out in Phoenix this past weekend though, like you need to dry anything in Phoenix...

pwd72s 11-11-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganMat (Post 4297864)
I stand corrected Sir. Saw them drying the track out in Phoenix this past weekend though, like you need to dry anything in Phoenix...


You ever tried driving an oval track in the rain? Lots of luck...Just guessing here, but I'd guess those good old boys could drive rings around anybody posting here...road or oval, given equal cars...and do his backflip after winning.

MichiganMat 11-12-2008 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4297908)
You ever tried driving an oval track in the rain? Lots of luck...Just guessing here, but I'd guess those good old boys could drive rings around anybody posting here...road or oval, given equal cars...and do his backflip after winning.

Doesn't seem to stop the rest of the racing world: F1, Super Bike...

legion 11-12-2008 06:32 AM

Matt:

If you race on an oval in the rain (even with wet tires), all of the cars will hit the wall on the first turn. Race over. Those cars require ALL of their mechanical grip in the dry to turn on an oval.

There's no point in destroying all of the cars for 15 seconds of glory. Besides, who wins? The car that stopped the furthest from the starting point?


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