Any Roofers out there ?

K9Torro · 03-09-2008, 06:42 AM

Ok any roofers or contractors want to give me an idea if I have a good deal estimate here or a walk away and look someplace else estimate.

My house is not that large but the angles and pitch are tough, this estimate includes the tear off and disposal of the current roof, it is one layer appx 15 years old of the older style standard shingle. It includes all new 30' felt and Timberline brand 30 year architectural shingles of my color choice and a new ridge vent.

Total area is 87 squares. Price is $ 14,520.00

Any thoughts ?

He also gave me prices for two different metals as well, one called 3 foot tin at $30,450.00 and the other called Standing Seam at $61,200.00 so I think I will pass on the metal roofs...lol

Todd

turbo6bar · 03-09-2008, 06:51 AM

I give $35/square for each act (removal and installation). Even adjusting up to $40/square for removal and $40/square for installation, that bid is a bit high. That assumes the architectural shingle is $40/square, as well. For reference, I am in Western TN.

RM512 · 03-09-2008, 11:04 AM

87 squares is a pretty large roof. If you have a lot of valley's, dormer's, etc.; these are things that slow the installation down.
Get a couple more estimates to compare.

K9Torro · 03-09-2008, 11:32 AM

The house is 2800 sq feet plus a 1150 sq foot attached 4 car garage, no dormers but there are several valleys and the pitch is steep,

Turbo if I figure it right you would charge between around 10400 ?

Todd

turbo6bar · 03-09-2008, 04:29 PM

Oh, I'm not a roofer, but that's a guesstimate on what my go-to-guy would charge. It depends on the pitch and as RM says, things that slow the installation down.

$10k or so sounds reasonable.

I'd get more estimates.
jurgen

stomachmonkey · 03-09-2008, 05:12 PM

You only have one layer? Why tear off then?

VINMAN · 05:35 AM

Thats a decent price. Without looking at it, I would ask about $13,000. Other variables would affect the price slightly.

As Stomachmonkey said, why the tearoff with one layer? I would only reccomend a tearoff iff the existing shingles were trashed or sheathing had to be replaced.

notfarnow · 03-10-2008, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

You only have one layer? Why tear off then?

People asked me the same thing when I did my roof in the fall. People told me to do a "pound over". Sounded dirty, and turn out it is.

I don't like the idea of laying new shingles over old. What if there are boards that need to be replaces, or leaks around flashing that could only be noticed by water stains when the shingles are off?

I dunno. I'm a novice, but it just doesn't sit right with me. Maybe some pros will chime in and say it's A-OK.

VINMAN · 03-10-2008, 05:46 AM

A tearoff is the right, and best way to do it. I would much rather start from scratch. But if $$ is an issue and there are no leaks or existing issues, than a pound over is ok.

legion · 03-10-2008, 05:56 AM

Makes my estimate (that I thought was really high) for $6,000 for architectual shakes (and two layers of tear-off) seem down right reasonable.

John_AZ · 03-10-2008, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN

Thats a decent price. Without looking at it, I would ask about $13,000. Other variables would affect the price slightly.

As Stomachmonkey said, why the tearoff with one layer? I would only reccomend a tearoff iff the existing shingles were trashed or sheathing had to be replaced.

A couple of questions.
1. Can 2x4 rafters support (steep pitch) a second layer of architectural shingle?
2. Would a second layer of architectural shingles over an existing layer have a roof with a shadow from the bottom layer?

Thanks.

John_AZ

notfarnow · 03-10-2008, 08:08 AM

The other side of the coin:

A couple friends and I did 2 sections of my roof in september. I have 2 more sections to go... one this year and one next year. It is REALLY hard work.

When I have to do it again in 20 years, I'll pay someone, and I'll know what a SOB job it is so I won't complain for a second

VINMAN · 03-10-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John_AZ

A couple of questions.
1. Can 2x4 rafters support (steep pitch) a second layer of architectural shingle?
2. Would a second layer of architectural shingles over an existing layer have a roof with a shadow from the bottom layer?

Thanks.

John_AZ

It would depends on the rafter span and spacing. What kind of a roof is it that has 2x4 rafters?? Or is it a truss roof?

Im not a big fan of two layers of architectural shingles, although Ive seen it done. Way too thick in my opinion. Plus you have to use like 4 inch nails.

VINMAN · 03-10-2008, 09:55 AM

Jake, beautiful; view from up there!

stomachmonkey · 03-10-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN

...Plus you have to use like 4 inch nails.

I prefer Nine Inch Nails

VINMAN · 03-10-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

I prefer Nine Inch Nails

ya know.. that would be a great name for a band!

John_AZ · 03-10-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN

It would depends on the rafter span and spacing. What kind of a roof is it that has 2x4 rafters?? Or is it a truss roof?

Im not a big fan of two layers of architectural shingles, although Ive seen it done. Way too thick in my opinion. Plus you have to use like 4 inch nails.

Thanks VINMAN
Sorry, engineered 2x4 truss.

John_AZ

K9Torro · 03-10-2008, 12:58 PM

Guys thanks for the input, he (roofer) says that he always does tear off with inspection and new felt, flashing and what not, it is all included in the estimate I listed above.

Todd

stomachmonkey · 03-10-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VINMAN

ya know.. that would be a great name for a band!

I think it's taken.

K9Torro · 12-01-2008, 10:39 PM

Ok guy's, finally getting around to the roof now that the cold weather has set in. I have gotten a few more estimates and here is the latest deal.

The pitch is 12/12 which is somewhat steep , I have a total of three new estimates right now in addition to the first one I got back in March. Here is the rub, these guys have figured the roof at between 60 and 65 squares not like the first guy. They all include tear off / haul off, new 30 pound felt, new drip edge, ridge cap and 30 year shingles. Prices range from 14.5 to 15.5 K on all three.

This sure is expensive, and the times for these guys are really slow around here, not much building going on with the econ the way it is.

I guess I will bite the bullet after I get one more esitmate from Lowes that I am waiting on.

Todd