Considering purchase of BMW; '04 745Li

[jstein]

Hello all experts and others

I'm wading into deep waters and considering the biggest automobile that will fit in my garage. A local dealer has a 2004 745Li with 56K on the ODO; offering at 25K. It's listed as a "one owner" car via carfax, and was sold to the dealer at auction.

Questions:
1) Is there any way for me to find out how much the dealer paid for this car?
2) Is that a reasonable price for a monstrosity like this?

Thanks in advance...

--J

[the]

Depending on condition, your dealer paid between $18K and $22K for it.

Where are you located? Does it happen to be beige?

[Kraftwerk]

I like the older 7 series' better, before the computer thing. There are bargains out there keep looking.

[Macroni]

Had one. Tons of shop time............get the service history. BMW dealers can call it up. I wasn't crazy about the car and got rid of it within 3 years.

[silverwhaletail]

here you go. These are the recent Manheim Dealer Auto Auction sales prices for 2004 745i's sold at dealer auctions owned by the Manheim Corporation. I think Manheim is the biggest in the country.

on the left is the date of sale, followed by the auction location, lease return or regular sale, selling price, mileage, condition, color and number of cylinders, and (A) automatic trans or (M) manual trans...




12/05/08 MANHEIM Lease $12,000 77,561 Below WHITE 8G A No
12/04/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $19,700 65,577 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
12/04/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $16,250 85,098 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
12/04/08 HOBBY Regular $23,000 43,823 Above SILVER 8G A Yes
12/03/08 LAKELAND Regular $17,000 86,256 Avg GRY 8G A Yes
12/02/08 STATESVL Regular $18,000 39,800 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
12/02/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $17,000 70,630 Avg JETBLACK 8G A Yes
12/02/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $16,000 65,575 Avg TITANIUM 8G A Yes
11/25/08 FAAO Lease $15,200 82,054 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
11/19/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $12,000 80,498 Below BLU 317 8G A No
11/18/08 OHIO Lease $18,500 59,523 Avg TITANIUM 8G A Yes
11/18/08 IMPERIAL Lease $15,200 89,078 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
11/14/08 LAUD/MIA Regular $27,900 23,391 Above SILVER 8G A No
11/12/08 BAY CITI Lease $16,000 72,230 Avg TITANIUM 8G A Yes
11/12/08 BAY CITI Lease $15,500 97,922 Avg JET BLAC 8G A Yes

[the]

Those numbers are not correct for a 2004 745Li, which is the car in question.

[silverwhaletail]

oops sorry. I didnt see the L...

2004 745Li


12/05/08 MANHEIM Lease $18,000 77,070 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
12/05/08 LAUD/MIA Lease $23,200 38,136 Above WHITE 8G A Yes
12/05/08 LAUD/MIA Regular $20,400 60,313 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
12/04/08 ATLANTA Lease $18,000 72,502 Avg TITANIUM 8G A Yes
12/03/08 NADE Regular $21,200 47,159 Above BLACK 8G Yes
12/03/08 BAY CITI Regular $19,250 49,532 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
12/02/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $17,750 56,872 Avg STER GRY 8G A Yes
12/02/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $17,500 57,144 Avg TITANIUM 8G A Yes
11/26/08 W PALM Lease $15,600 69,407 Below RED 8G A Yes
11/26/08 NADE Lease $13,300 60,712 Below BLACK 8G A No
11/25/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $21,500 49,808 Above JETBLACK 8G A Yes
11/25/08 FAAO Regular $20,800 62,821 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
11/21/08 MANHEIM Regular $21,750 62,480 Above GREY 8G Yes
11/21/08 LAUD/MIA Regular $20,100 70,707 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
11/21/08 LAUD/MIA Regular $17,800 95,886 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
11/20/08 W PALM Lease $21,200 72,410 Above BLACK SA 8G A Yes
11/20/08 W PALM Lease $18,600 70,682 Avg ALPINE W 8G A Yes
11/20/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $19,000 63,469 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
11/20/08 ATLANTA Regular $21,800 55,993 Above BEIGE 8G A Yes
11/19/08 NEWBRGH Lease $13,700 96,640 Below SILVER 8G A Yes
11/19/08 DALLAS Lease $15,200 86,815 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
11/18/08 LAUD/MIA Lease $19,000 79,969 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
11/14/08 NEVADA Lease $21,300 41,303 Above GRAY 8G A Yes
11/14/08 MANHEIM Lease $23,000 45,210 Above ALPWHITE 8G A Yes
11/14/08 MANHEIM Regular $20,500 69,000 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
11/13/08 ATLANTA Regular $20,600 51,962 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
11/12/08 NADE Lease $16,000 75,218 Below RED 8G A Yes
11/12/08 CEN FLA Lease $19,500 69,498 Avg SILVER 8G T Yes
11/12/08 BAY CITI Lease $21,750 53,553 Above BLACK SA 8G A Yes
11/12/08 ATLANTA Lease $21,000 62,409 Above SILVER 8G Yes
11/11/08 ARENA Lease $17,500 77,156 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes

[einreb]

Originally Posted by silverwhaletail

2004 745Li

How far back can you get data? See a match for this?

08/18/2008
56,344
Auto Auction
Sold at auction in Illinois Listed as a dealer vehicle

[HardDrive]

I looked at these before I bought my Merc. I was disappointed to find that paint had come off many of the buttons on the dash. These cars were 2-3 year old lease cars. No excuse for that kind of thing in a car of that caliber. Maintenece costs looked scary to.

[the]

Yeah, BMWs are great cars, but the interiors on the late model ones have some weaknesses, like the buttons you mention. They also have a lot of hard plastic parts which are painted with a rubbery kind of coating to give them some texture and softness, which starts to peel off.

[Embraer]

used to get these in our shop. not cars to have out of warranty.

Audi A8's, any Jaguar, and a 7-series BMW....three cars that are worth NOTHING 5 years down the line. there's a reason for it....

[swang]

Those are the cars which are biggest wasted money ever. I had has one a few years ago (was gray with tan and wood) and it was a lot of troubles! Many reapars and in and out of mechanic.

It was nice to drive however and very large in the back. Many rooms for lots of friends and equipment.

It got wrecked one bad night and now I don't have it any more.

[SLO-BOB]

Tempting at that price aren't they? The most maintenance intensive car BMW offered at the time I believe, and that's saying something. That car is just getting ready to make someone's wallet scream. Even if you can afford the upkeep, do you want to? Even the Tech guy in the Roundel (BMWCCA) pans the big Bimmers. He has been lambasted by the membership for recommending Hondas. While there's no Honda that compares, I would look at Lexus instead of BMW.

[jstein]

Originally Posted by swang

Those are the cars which are biggest wasted money ever. I had has one a few years ago (was gray with tan and wood) and it was a lot of troubles! Many reapars and in and out of mechanic.

It was nice to drive however and very large in the back. Many rooms for lots of friends and equipment.

It got wrecked one bad night and now I don't have it any more.

It's this type of useless "information" that dilutes this forum in general, and the thread specifically.

I asked two rather pointed questions - neither of which was "can you give me any vague opinions on any random large BMW of any model year?"

Back on topic - assuming I'm insane and want to buy one of these despite the doomsayers:

silvertail, do you have access to info based on vin? What about this one:WBAGN63454DS48614

Thanks