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126coupe 12-15-2008 10:23 AM

Feds most likely will drop rates 1/2%-1%
 
Its possible that the Fed could drop a key rate 1% to 0% tomorrow.
First time since 1954 that the rate could be 0%.
Personally for me this is a good thing. I have fairly sizable commercial loans on RE that are tied to the prime rate.

Does anyone on the board have an opinion on this rate cut?

the 12-15-2008 10:29 AM

Won't be long before it is a negative number!

126coupe 12-15-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4361510)
Won't be long before it is a negative number!

A negative #? Is this possible?

the 12-15-2008 10:42 AM

These days, it seems anything is possible. The lowering of rates has been the life support drug for our dying economy for several years now. But of course that drug is limited. Now that the bag of tricks is almost empty . . . then what?

legion 12-15-2008 11:28 AM

We have almost reached (or have already reached) the point when lowering interest rates has no impact. Look at Japan in the 90's--they had a rate of 0% and that couldn't kick-start their economy.

JeremyD 12-15-2008 11:28 AM

They won't go to zero, then they won't have anywhere to move.

Jim Richards 12-15-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4361526)
. . . then what?

Wal-Mart gift certificates?

turbo6bar 12-15-2008 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyD (Post 4361626)
They won't go to zero, then they won't have anywhere to move.

What you talkin bout, Willis? If they have any balls, they'd drop rates to -4%, so Prime goes to minus 1%. In Soviet America, loan pay you.

The problem isn't liquidity, but solvency. Lower rates do not fix bad debt, particularly as the collateral is falling in value.

sammyg2 12-15-2008 03:38 PM

Just got an e-mail earlier today, our finance guy who we've been working with for years is offering a re-fi for our house at around 5%, no points or closing costs. We're at 5 3/4% now.
No-brainer if there ever was one.

targa911S 12-15-2008 04:03 PM

Makes me wish I had a mortgage.

83-911SC cab 12-15-2008 04:43 PM

The mortgage company I use to check rates has been showing the rate on a 30 year conventional to bounce from 5% to about 5.5% daily.... I know they say the prime does not affect the Mortgage rates because they are set by traders/ investors somehow?

I find this hard to believe as the Mortgage lenders are borrowing their money from someone and it ain't the guy living next door!!!

I guess this is why I will be working for a long time coming..

Vipergrün 12-15-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 4362286)
Just got an e-mail earlier today, our finance guy who we've been working with for years is offering a re-fi for our house at around 5%, no points or closing costs. We're at 5 3/4% now.
No-brainer if there ever was one.

Dang Sammy, pass me his # ;) I'm also at 5.75 and it might make sense to do a 15 year refi.

Wickd89 12-15-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 4362896)
Dang Sammy, pass me his # ;) I'm also at 5.75 and it might make sense to do a 15 year refi.

True. Sammy you are the man!

Can you please email me his number.:D
Sounds like you have known him a while and you trust him with your $$.

Aurel 12-15-2008 08:12 PM

So, what does a negative prime rate actually mean? Does anyone get paid an interest for borrowing money?

As far as 30 yr fixed loans go, I would be delighted to refi at 4.5% no closing cost and points from my current 6.625%. Am I dreaming or will it happen soon?

turbo6bar 12-16-2008 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 4362913)
So, what does a negative prime rate actually mean? Does anyone get paid an interest for borrowing money?

As far as 30 yr fixed loans go, I would be delighted to refi at 4.5% no closing cost and points from my current 6.625%. Am I dreaming or will it happen soon?

Negative prime rate would be the cue to bend over and kiss it goodbye. The chances of that ever happening are so close to zero. If it did, you would know the end is near.

At 6.625%, even 5% would be good news. Go for it.

cantdrv55 12-16-2008 08:50 AM

I'm doing a refi right now. Fixed at 4.875% at 1 point for 30 years. With the savings I'll be seeing, I can almost make double payments and reduce the time to less than 15 years.

legion 12-16-2008 08:53 AM

When your only tool is water, and you have a ship on fire, you have to be careful not to sink the boat when putting out the fire.

onewhippedpuppy 12-16-2008 09:12 AM

Anybody know what a 20 year fixed is averaging? Mine is at 6%, I'd happily refi if it saved me on my overall interest and monthly payment.

Bill Douglas 12-16-2008 09:15 AM

I wish I lived in the US. I'd be buying more property.

Fool you say. Remmember 2008 in 5 or 10 years time. What opportunities we had.

Vintage Racer 12-16-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 4363732)
I wish I lived in the US. I'd be buying more property.

You don't have to live here to buy property.

You can also buy property through a ETF. If you think the returns will be so great going forward 5-10 years, it seems like to me that you should load up now.


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