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RWebb 01-08-2009 11:25 AM

New VW Bus
 
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2009/01/verdier-reinven.html

equality72521 01-08-2009 11:34 AM

That's actually pretty good looking. Too bad if they actually produce it they will completely change the looks.

legion 01-08-2009 11:36 AM

Looks better than the "New Bus" concept VW did a few years ago.

One problem it will not meet crash test requirements with the driver/passenger sitting in front of the front wheels.

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 11:57 AM

I like it. I like it a lot. Well, maybe not the price tag. :eek:

speeder 01-08-2009 12:05 PM

That thing is too cool for school. I likey.

rouxroux 01-08-2009 12:12 PM

I love it...sort of a "Super Westfalia"...I'd scarf one up in a heartbeat if it was 50K or less.

jyl 01-08-2009 12:28 PM

Looks slick and has all the buzzwords ("4-speed automatic turbocharged bio-diesel hybrid") but look at it hard and its a POS.

1. Err, where is the engine? Not in front, that's where driver is. Not in rear, that's where the slide-out storage it. Not in middle, that's where the living space is. I guess someone makes a 4-speed automatic turbocharged bio-diesel hybrid that is only 12 inches high?

2. The van apparently drives itself in circles. Because the "integrated Sun Tracker solar panel hooked up to a GPS and an onboard computer will position the solar array for optimum charging", but the mechanism only allows the panel to be flat or tilted toward the right side of the vehicle.

3. While he's ripping off the Westfalia VW, his version isn't nearly as clever. For one thing, there is no way to climb from the front seats to the living space, nor can the front seats be pivoted to serve as living space seating.

4. This is purely a virtual creation, as other features can't even work. For instance, there is no way for the big awnings to retract and be stored away. He wouldn't even be able to build a working model of this thing.

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 12:34 PM

Yeah, it's the devil in the details thing...still, I like the look and was thinking that a plug-in electric version with a small gas/diesel/Yoo Hoo recharge motor, fixed rooftop solar panel, no pop-top, one side awning, swivel seating, two person camping vehicle would be cool. I wonder how many cup holds it'll have. :cool:

VincentVega 01-08-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

$129,000

lol

legion 01-08-2009 12:44 PM

I'd much rather have that off-road Jeep camper thingy for that price.

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 12:49 PM

Whassat?

VincentVega 01-08-2009 12:53 PM

This thing?

http://www.machinearts.com/smbpics/inyos1.jpg

legion 01-08-2009 12:59 PM

No, this one:

http://www.earthroamer.com/tab_xpedition_vehicles/xvjp1_overview.html

Z-man 01-08-2009 12:59 PM

I am Z-man, and I approve this VW Verdier concept.

Me likey!
-Z

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 01:15 PM

Chris, me no likey.

Seahawk 01-08-2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 4405576)
Chris, me no likey.

With snow tires, me likey long time.

VincentVega 01-08-2009 01:35 PM

I'm sure there is a lot more to it than it seems, but 100k+ for any one of these? No way.

The van seems oh so useful on all but smaller jeep trails. Highway, camping, fire road.... carry the bikes in the van, kayak on the roof and get up to Alaska for a serious couple weeks of real living.

trekkor 01-08-2009 01:45 PM

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I had a '61 crew cab over twenty years ago.
I'll never own or ride in one again.

They are totally cool and fun to drive. Just way too dangerous.


KT

trekkor 01-08-2009 01:47 PM

If some serious road trips were in order, I'd rather put a big campershell on the back of my F-350.


KT

Shaun @ Tru6 01-08-2009 01:49 PM

I liked the 2001 concept Microbus.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1231454840.jpg

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 4405596)
With snow tires, me likey long time.

ROFLMAO! I'm longing for a my very own Jeepney fully stocked with PI sweethearts (female, Seahawk, female. ;) ) all chanting "Hey sailor, I love you no sheet. Buy me a drink."

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4405660)

Me too. I was so PO'd when they rebadged a Chrystler mini-van. :mad:

911boost 01-08-2009 02:26 PM

Yep, I might have actually bought one of the 01's.

RWebb 01-08-2009 02:58 PM

I like it. It looks better than the VW concept.

The $130k is "only" $70k if you just get the vehicle itself w/no camper or solar panel IF IF it ever gets built.

Yup, It is not clear where the motor might possibly be, the front seats don't swivel, etc.

But I hope it at least pushes VW to build a new camper on the 4wd Tour-egg platform.

Or something...

Anything!

I may be forced to buy a used Vanagon Westie...

RWebb 01-08-2009 03:01 PM

main web site:

http://www.verdier.ca/

ckissick 01-08-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 4405651)
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I had a '61 crew cab over twenty years ago.
I'll never own or ride in one again.

They are totally cool and fun to drive. Just way too dangerous.


KT

That video of the orange vanagon truck hitting the wall is misleading. It was going about 60 mph and, they say, had about a ton of steel in the back. Real crash tests on vanagons are very good. In a head-on between a vanagon and a Volvo wagon, the Volvo dummy dies and the vanagon dummy walks away.

A '61 VW truck on the other hand...

lendaddy 01-08-2009 03:45 PM

It would be great if some twat hadn't greened it all up :D

Jim Richards 01-08-2009 03:49 PM

Maybe you need it all rusted out so it'll look at home in Michigan. ;)

lendaddy 01-08-2009 04:08 PM

Mine is buried in a 4' snow bank right now :D

RWebb 01-08-2009 04:11 PM

The Vanagons met _passenger car_ crash standards at the time they were sold - 1980's. That was very unusual.

I used to have a '73 bus and looking thru junk yards for parts was a very, very sobering experience.

jyl 01-08-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckissick (Post 4405840)
That video of the orange vanagon truck hitting the wall is misleading. It was going about 60 mph and, they say, had about a ton of steel in the back. Real crash tests on vanagons are very good. In a head-on between a vanagon and a Volvo wagon, the Volvo dummy dies and the vanagon dummy walks away.

A '61 VW truck on the other hand...

Yes, a vanagon has very stiff beams running under the floors all the way to the bumper, and in most crash tests the vanagon crushes the other car while itself not deforming very much at all.

This is not as good as having a modern crumple zone - the vanagon driver is more likely to suffer foot/leg injuries - but the vanagon driver isn't actually likely to be flattened. The driver also sits high, and much of the force goes under his seat.

I've seen pictures of vanagons that have been in frontal impacts and the driver/passenger compartment is intact.

Bottom-line, it is a reasonably safe vehicle by the standards of its time (1980s) even if modern cars are much safer.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-08-2009 06:59 PM

I had a 63 VW Crewcab Pick-up. Try as I might, I never crashed head-on into a solid brick wall at any speed over 15 MPH. could never get over that hump.

HardDrive 01-08-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4406373)
I had a 63 VW Crewcab Pick-up. Try as I might, I never crashed head-on into a solid brick wall at any speed over 15 MPH. could never get over that hump.

Quiter.

RWebb 01-08-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun 84 Targa (Post 4406373)
I had a 63 VW Crewcab Pick-up. Try as I might, I never crashed head-on into a solid brick wall at any speed over 15 MPH. could never get over that hump.

you need to stick a 3.8L motor in the '63 Crewcab - that will get it over the hump

Jim Richards 01-09-2009 02:50 AM

I love how car guys are so supportive. Kudos, gentlemen! :)

Shaun @ Tru6 01-09-2009 04:34 AM

LOL!!!!

It did have a top land speed of 45 mph, so I felt safe. Man I miss that truck.

jwasbury 01-09-2009 09:19 AM

Sure you have seen this before, but couldn't resist posting in this tread. Love the VW buses.

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