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lendaddy 01-16-2009 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 4421235)
There you have it.... Eventually shop classes will be a thing of the past due to lawsuits over ever increasing safety concerns.

This is absolutely true.

ruf-porsche 01-16-2009 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4421246)
This is absolutely true.

Yeah, when I went to H.S. I had woodshop, electrical shop, foundry and machine shop. Now my old H.S. is a college Prep School and all the shop courses have been eliminated.

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 4420990)
People aren't stupid. Accidents happen.

So you mean to tell me you NEVER meet a stupid person? What about the motorcyclist that was killed because he was riding down a street at over 100mph and ran into the side of a car, was that an accident or was that a stupid person?

Schumi 01-16-2009 06:33 AM

man I had a shop class- not in high school even, but in 8th grade!. I don't know about table saws, but we used frequently drill presses, sheet metal brakes, band saws (big assed band saws), scroll saws, and some other stuff. I had to build a tool box using folded up flat steel sheet riveted together. Now that I think about it, that was so awesome as far a 8th grade went...

MBAtarga 01-16-2009 08:24 AM

Actually, this product (technology) ALLOWS shop classes to continue. Many of their customers are school districts that are updating their table saws to this product line.

RWebb 01-16-2009 03:07 PM

don't confuse them with facts

911pcars 01-16-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 4421235)
There you have it.... Eventually shop classes will be a thing of the past due to lawsuits over ever increasing safety concerns.

Most school districts didn't need potential loss-of-limb lawsuits as an excuse to close their IA programs. Govt. regs and an overexhuberant educational pendulum swung too far in the direction of "college prep" for every student. That mandate closed so-called elective programs because there wasn't enough time in a student'sl schedule for these "optional" classes.

I have no case against offering every student a well-rounded education. However, I include music, art and industrial arts in a well-rounded educational background. That's where the current educational philosophy and I differ.

Sherwood

Tim Hancock 01-16-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 4421675)
Actually, this product (technology) ALLOWS shop classes to continue. Many of their customers are school districts that are updating their table saws to this product line.


The fact that our society now has to be allowed to still teach basic shop skills to today's youth bothers me to the core. Oh well, I guess kids today would rather spend every second of free time on Facebook, sending text messages or playing video games anyhow.

911pcars 01-16-2009 04:34 PM

"The fact that our society now has to be allowed to still teach basic shop skills to today's youth bothers me to the core. "

Can you rephrase that? I'm a little unclear on what bothers you - teaching basic shop skills?

Thanks,
Sherwood

porsche930dude 01-16-2009 04:49 PM

i still think it would be a much better design and sell if the stopper didnt get destroyed every time. If a hair on your finger sets it off how often does it set off accidently? What if your cutting a wet piece of wood or somthing with higher "conductivity" and goes off. Id be royally pissed

Tim Hancock 01-16-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 4422737)
"The fact that our society now has to be allowed to still teach basic shop skills to today's youth bothers me to the core. "

Can you rephrase that? I'm a little unclear on what bothers you - teaching basic shop skills?

Thanks,
Sherwood


I think it is BS that schools would be required to purchase this guys product in order to keep their shop clas programs intact (which is what it seemed like the guy I was responding to implied). Of course in today's society, if some kid cuts his finger, the school will get sued because they did not buy the latest whiz bang safety equipment.


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