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David Olofson--Have you heard this?
http://www.firearmscoalition.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=192&Itemid=37
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this guy pissed someone off real bad for this to go this far. feds are correct that if it shoots more than one bullet per one trigger pull someones got problems. big problems.
this is a real clear wake up call to anyone here that plays with files and other clubbed tools making a semi-auto into a full auto. full autos are not toys any more than other guns. i respect ATF for their job. its not a good job by any stretch. but there are far too many dead bodies around because of illegal firearms. and if yer not willing and intelligent enough to know the laws, follow the laws, and correctly apply for a FFL full auto stamp/a SBR stamp/ a suppressor stamp, have a clean background, and pay for a registered full auto firearm..........you have NO BIZ OWNING ONE in my humble(yeah right) opinion. hell 99.9999% of the u.s. populace has never fired a full auto and those of us who have will tell you it aint what its cracked up to be unless its a "ma-deuce" or quad fifty! hits on target is about zero unless trained and even then its usually spray and pray. and thats why the FBI changed from full auto trigger groups on their HK MP-5's to semi-auto trigger groups because they got more hits on target to stop the threat. also the M-14 was changed from full-auto to semi-auto because out of 20 rds fired maybe 2 hit the target and the other 18 were skyshots! live here in the state of arizona, which has the greatest number of illegal firearms exported to mexico , have friends who live in mexico who give you daily e-mails about the cartels and the violence and you too will get an attitude about illegal weapons holders. |
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I've read a very different version of this case. It was commented on a lot on our local AZ gun BBS and believe me, we're all gun nuts. Olofson is not quite the angel this piece makes him out to be.
First of all, even if he made no modifications to this gun, he knew it had this occasional malfunction, which makes it just insane to let the gun out of the house and especially onto a public range, where the unmistakeable sound of full auto fire is sure to draw attention. In the version I read, Olofson had, in fact, installed some full auto components of the LPK (lower parts kit), but not all of them. I forget if it was the sear or what he left off. But it was not bone stock, that's for sure. And since the ATF lives for stuff like this, he was just a complete fool to even tempt them with a gun containing any NFA parts whatsoever. I've borrowed and loaned guns out before. But I wouldn't even think of doing so with a gun I did not know 100% worked perfectly 100% of the time. In fact, I was babysitting a Pelicanite's M4 years ago and believe it let off a three round burst once at the NRA range. I didn't shoot it in public again after that. ATF has a hard on for NFA violations and they couldn't care less if it's accidental or not. Their evidence was likely heavily tainted, but Olofson still handed them this case.
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I think Mr. Olofson broke the law.
I follow gun laws strictly. If a person decides not to follow the law, he should be prosecuted. What kind of idiot lends a malfunctioning AR15 rifle to another person? Would you loan a friend a malfunctioning power saw, and not tell them about it?
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well rick..............if this guy placed parts in the lower to make it full despite not all of them that shows me as a juror here in arizona, THAT HE HAD INTENT! case closed.
david koresh had intent. documented on his ar-15's. despite the horrific circumstancrs involved atf did there job. if ya want to point the finger at who screwed this all up, point at clyde and bonnie barrows. ie. bonnie and clyde. using a full auto BAR kind of pissed alot of people off during the depression and alot of people got dead around them. feds kind of frowned upon this poor social behavior and thats where the full auto ban came from. i have no sympathy NONE for people that play with semis to make them full illegally. i know what it takes to own a suppressor/sbr/or a full auto trigger group. and one of the first rules of full auto ownership is you NEVER under penalty of the law loan out your full auto. the only time someone other than yourself can have that in their possession is with YOU THE FFL HOLDER standing next to him. atf/fbi/local cops aint playing games with this and thats fine by me. i sleep better at night knowing meth crazed POS are not running around with full autos knocking over circle k's and doing home invasions. i sleep better knowing my cop friends dont have to deal with this and its a fairly well understood law. "play with a full auto w/out a fed stamp..........and you is TOAST!" DO ARIZONA-DO TIME! |
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well heres how laws werk. if you drink and drive, the man is gonna get 'cha. simple. if you have an illegal machine gun or destructive device...........the man is gonna get 'cha........wayyyyy simple. if you threaten da man while he is doing his job................well yous gonna be TOAST! wayyyy wayyy simple to understand. if you engage in illegal firearms sales.............da man is gonna get 'cha. i live in the cop VORTEX here in carefree/cave creek. 27 bars no real mfg or industrial job base. only income to be made is support roles for touristas(snowbirds). ie. golf/horseyback rides jeep tours restaurants etc. all income derived from bars. its called DISTRICT IV MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE. there are really cool good cops here, and some real redneck dumb ass rookies here. werking at the aeropuerto here i have pretty much met all of them or recognize them. the good cops patrol the back roads here and do a great job. the bad cops here sit on their ass and hand out 35-25 mph zone tickets all day long as well as tickets for window tint too dark(my son). they also hand out noise ordinance violations by the bucket full to bikers cruising thru. my point being all cop agencies have good cops and bad cops just like our civilian society. atf is NO DIFFERENT. what occurred with randy weaver and koresh are examples of things getting wayyy out of hand. BUTT! both of these guys HAD ILLEGAL FIREARMS PERIOD! so did this guy mentioned above. no sympathy for them. yes i have sympathy for the others tragically involved. |
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