Yes, the ARE out to get you!
 

So you thought Big Brother wasn't coming after your car or pickup?

Read this, and then please contact everyone on this committee. First it will
be limits on tire sizes and suspension. Then it will be horsepower limits.
Then we'll be forced into hybrids or electric cars, all in the name of
"man-caused global warming" which is a giant fraud.


Oregon Introduces Bill to Prohibit Sale

of Aftermarket Parts



At the request of Governor Theodore Kulongoski, the Oregon Speaker of
the House has introduced legislation (H.B. 2186) to prohibit the sale and
distribution of aftermarket motor vehicle parts if alternatives are
available that "decrease greenhouse gas emissions from motor vehicles." The
bill is primarily focused on aftermarket tires and would authorize the
Environmental Quality Commission to implement enforcement regulations,
likely based on a rolling resistance calculation.

We Urge You to Contact Oregon Speaker of the House Dave Hunt and Members
of the Environment and Water Committee (Contact Information Below)
Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 2186


* H.B. 2186 would regulate vehicle fuel economy, an authority
reserved to the federal government.
* H.B. 2186 could ban tires that may have improved performance,
handling or appearance features, based solely on a rolling resistance
rating. In addition, this program could easily distract consumers from
focusing on more important safety issues such as tire inflation and
overloading of vehicles.
* H.B. 2186 would force consumers to purchase only original
equipment manufacturer (OEM) tires because the program essentially exempts
OEM-selected tires and unfairly implies that they are superior to
aftermarket products.
* H.B. 2186 could prohibit aftermarket parts designed to either
personalize or optimize specific vehicle performance attributes including
handling, towing, suspension, fuel economy, etc.
* H.B. 2186 provides broad authority to government regulators and
could limit a range of aftermarket parts currently available to consumers
based on the subjective determination of government regulators.
*

DON'T DELAY! Please contact Oregon Speaker Dave Hunt and the House
Environment and Water Committee immediately to urge his opposition to H.B.
2186.

Oregon House Speaker Dave Hunt

Phone: 503/986-1440

Email: rep.davehunt@state.or.us

Oregon House Environment and Water Committee

Representative Ben Cannon - Chair

Phone: 503/986-1446

Email: rep.bencannon@state.or.us

Representative Jules Bailey

Phone: 503/986-1442

Email: rep.juleskopelbailey@state.or.us

Representative Phil Barnhart

Phone: 503/986-1411

Email: rep.philbarnhart@state.or.us

Representative Cliff Bentz

Phone: 503/986-1460

Email: rep.cliffbentz@state.or.us

Representative Deborah Boone

Phone: 503/986-1432

Email: rep.deborahboone@state.or.us

Representative Vic Gilliam

Phone: 503/986-1418

Email: rep.vicgilliam@state.or.us

Representative Bob Jenson

Phone: 503/986-1458

Email: rep.bobjenson@state.or.us

Representative Jefferson Smith

Phone: 503/986-1447

Email: rep.jeffersonsmith@state.or.us

We need to start separating America into the lands of "We want to think less" and "Land of individuals".

jesus christ

Not planning to move to Oregon anytime. Ever. Go for it.

Thanks alot Governor Kolonoscopy! :mad:

angela

Ridiculous. SEMA should hire a lobbyist. And a lawyer.

I'm not much of a constitutional study, but isn't something somewhere in all that being violated?

wildly exaggerated.

read the actual Bill before posting more craziness

Right...we should trust these people? The lefty greens? Oh...I forgot...

regulate snow tires?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/1362599_02bcdea730.jpg

Sometimes, I'm happy that I live in KS.

LOL, did his line about "man-caused global warming being a giant fraud" touch a nerve? ;)

I could see these things coming. Wait until gas goes back up to $4.50 - $5.00 a gallon - all kinds of crazy stuff will get passed through these lefty state legislatures.

Automotive aftermarket is a huge industry. I don't see anything like this passing without a huge court battle. Not that the nutball lefty states won't try anyway.

Back about ten years ago, maybe more, I wrote a huge financial feature for the LA Times about the auto aftermarket. It was a four to five billion dollar a year industry then. I'm not sure what it is now, but if all the geeked out cars I see in L.A. are any indication, that market is alive and very lucrative. A person only has to go over to the Pelican Parts Tech forum and see how alive that is.

Enough is enough. Sure, there's global warming. But to ruin a large portion of the auto industry while at the same time force auto owners away from an aspect of ownership they might enjoy will more than likely be met with some stiff lawsuits.

I don't think any state wants to take on the auto aftermarket industry in lieu of global warming, particularly as it isn't yet a definitive fact global warming is mostly caused by man and machine.

There's a world outside of OT?

Yeah. They call it "PARF" !

The land of eternal snow tires

"This 2009 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and this 2009 Act takes effect on its passage."

This "Emergency" which so threatens "the immediate peace, health and safety" of Oregon has precipitated the people of the state of Oregon to empower The Environmental Quality Commission to adopt by rule "restrictions and prohibitions on the sale and distribution of after-market motor vehicle parts...if alternatives are available that decrease greenhouse gas emissions of motor vehicles."

If this is what the people of Oregon believe and want then their elected officials are merely doing their job. I do fear for their peace and safety during this emergency.

no Paulie - just read and trust your eyes FOR STARTERS

then, you can learn up on admin. law.

like I said whatever you got from some drag racer is wildly exaggerated.

of course, maybe we should ask an "espert" like sammy -- he knows all about global warming

kudos on reading the bill's text

but you are mis-interpreting "emergency" -- all that does is allow the agency [EQC] to start the long rule-making process right after the bill passes (I doubt it will). Otherwise they would have to wait a while.

Once the EQC gets started, they will set a policy for ANOTHER agency (likely DEQ) to folllow, while it sets any actual rules that affect parts sellers. Both processes require a lot of time -- notice and comment, and most likely public meetings and a response by each agency to ALL comments. i.e. more time...

It is a bill for an act, and the act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health and safety. To my reading it is the immediate threat to the public peace, health and safety that precipitated the act. I am dubious as to the immediacy of the threat and the appropriateness of the legislators' response to address the threat. I do agree with your assesment of the likelihood of its passage, but I am concerned with the idea of granting broad powers to a board with little chance of those powers meeting the goals of the legislation (restricting the sales and distribution of tires based on greenhouse gas emissions to preserve the public peace, health and safety).

They are on it,

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62515
and you can join up & help to keep the liberal sociast A-holes from taking our fun & rights.:mad:



http://www.bipac.net/page.asp?g=sema&content=join_pac

sociast ??

your rant needs to be more intelligible

Please, do argue how this bill is anything but socialist.

Awww, you're just mad because he mis-spelled your party.

And while we're at it, to refute the statement in your post in the other thread, I don't think any of us use fart cans on our 911's.

The day is coming where aftermarket performance parts will be more regulated. SEMA is strong and the industry sells in excess of 60 billion (or they did in better times). But, they better take a proactive stance in their own back yard because some of the stuff sold is ridiculous. I'm not a believer in "loud pipes save lives." At least the way some would want me to believe.

We've had some crazy attempts here in CA to ban all old cars. To ban parts for old cars is another path to the same place. Of course, the Net and swaps would negate any of that.

Now, on to tires. Huge off road tires are used for 2 things, showing off or helping to destroy nature. Do I think we need to stop selling tires of this kind because of this? No, but I think if people who ride Harleys started not using straight pipes, then no one would consider a law banning them. Lifted trucks with huge tires are not safe; that's proven. I fail to see the point unless you live 20 miles up a dirt road.

Stores sell what people buy. If we were half way intelligent, we wouldn't need or buy some of the stuff sold. It's all the extreme merchandise that is getting the attention. I would submit that 200 amp stereos on the street have an underlying effect on the aftermarket and custom industry as a whole. There is no reasonable place in our society for auto sound equipment to be heard a half mile away.

One thing leads to another. As I said in my opening sentence, the day is coming where aftermarket performance parts will be more regulated. A little responsibility will go a long way.

Should I sum that up by saying self control will stall government control? I won't hold my breath.

That's all well and good Milt, but who defines offensive? Maybe the person writing the law is an off-road enthusiast, and doesn't like little German sports cars or racing? It's pretty stupid to open that box, because eventually someone will be offended by something that YOU enjoy.

Personally I don't think it's the government's business. I think they have more important things to worry about. Anyone offended by loud stereos, fart cans, and big off-road tires really just needs to lighten up. Last time I checked, there's not "right to not be offended" in the Constitution. Take away someone else's freedoms, eventually they'll be back to take yours.

We can agree to disagree. Who defines offensive would be the same that define good manners. Sure, it's all subjective, but if you're going to sit in front of me eating, chewing with your mouth open, talking with your mouth full and food falling out, I'd say the majority will find that offensive. And as you say, some won't.

It's a consensus of opinion. Push too far and you will get pushed back.

And why is it that the most annoying people are always in the slim minority?