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Laneco 02-15-2009 09:31 AM

US Made Stainless Water Bottles?
 
I am looking to purchase some stainless steel water bottles for hiking, cycling, etc. I've experimented with a couple of different materials and I am dead sent on food grade stainless. Love it.

I'm trying to find a US made stainless water bottle... Either double or single wall. I did find a Canadian made product - Purica - that is exactly what I want. If I can't find a US made product, I will buy the Purica bottles.

Does anyone know of a US maker? And why aren't there any US makers?

thank you,

angela

pwd72s 02-15-2009 09:58 AM

Not stainless...but I had to LOL when our states largest fishwrap wrote a long article on how bad for the envrionment the plastc water bottles are. They suggested one use a metal container instead. My mind instantly went to one in the garage that I used when I hunted. I used it for decades with no problems. It's an aluminum bottle that is carried in a canvas carrier. The carrier is olive drab in color, marked "US". Yep, a WWII surplus canteen. It's nice to know that I've had a "proper" way to carry water all these years. :D

HardDrive 02-15-2009 10:39 AM

I use SIGG water bottles for hiking and and love them. Not sure on where they are made.

Dave L 02-15-2009 11:04 AM

Sigg is swiss, and what's wrong with Canada? eh??

Eric Coffey 02-15-2009 11:09 AM

I use Nalgene plastic bottles, but they make some nice stainless ones too (and made in the US):
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=1235

pwd72s 02-15-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 4487440)
I use Nalgene plastic bottles, but they make some nice stainless ones too (and made in the US):
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=1235

I clicked on the link..."made in China" on the stanless bottle that popped up.

Eric Coffey 02-15-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 4487451)
I clicked on the link..."made in China" on the stanless bottle that popped up.

DOH! Good catch. :o
I only use their plastic ones, but I thought all Nalgene stuff was made in the USA. I Guess not!

repp 02-15-2009 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey (Post 4487440)
I use Nalgene plastic bottles, but they make some nice stainless ones too (and made in the US):
http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=1235

made in CHINA.
silly only thing the us is manufacturing is bailout checks and ****ty cars.

old man neri 02-15-2009 11:21 AM

Just curious. Is your need to buy 'made in usa' strictly for fear of pour quality or is it more of a thing to help out american companies?

Laneco 02-15-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave L (Post 4487431)
Sigg is swiss, and what's wrong with Canada? eh??

Sigg aluminum is Swiss, but per the Sigg website, their stainless is made in China.

No issues with buying a Canadian made product, greatly admire our northern neighbors. Purica (Canadian) looks like exactly what I'm looking for.

What mystified me is that a water bottle isn't a terribly complex item... I would have thought that there would be numerous American makers. I'd like to buy American if I possible (quality must be good or no-go). But there aren't any...

None. We can't or won't make a stainless water bottle?

Well, Purica, here I come. (eh?) SmileWavy

angela

porsche4life 02-15-2009 02:52 PM

Get the new BPA free nalgene. Those are awesome and cant be broken. Stainless will dent and what not. Still tough but not as tough IMHO.

jyl 02-15-2009 03:29 PM

I think Sigg needs to make aluminium bottles with larger openings. To allow easier washing, ice, etc. The original use for the bottles was fuel, not drinking.

Apparently Sigg has ceased making their fuel bottles. I'm guessing they wanted to focus on water bottles, and the fuel application would jeopardize the re-branding of the company as the eco-water-bottle company. Their website doesn't even mention their fuel bottle history, it's like they are ashamed of it. So now you have to buy a MSR fuel bottle to replace the trusty SIGG.

A MSR aluminium fuel bottle is much cheaper than a SIGG. I think it is made in Canada, not sure. Lacks the lining but who cares? You're not storing water in the things long term.

911pcars 02-15-2009 03:44 PM

Read stuff from Nalgene for their info:

http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/technical/bpaInfo.html

If weight is a consideration for hiking, I'd leave the nice stainless at home.

Sherwood

lendaddy 02-15-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laneco (Post 4487630)

None. We can't or won't make a stainless water bottle?


angela

How much do they go for? We could easily make them but only you and 2 other people would care to spend the extra dough. Food grade compliance regulations in the US are a bit tougher than anywhere else best I can tell.

slakjaw 02-15-2009 05:21 PM

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Laneco 02-15-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lendaddy (Post 4488084)
How much do they go for? We could easily make them but only you and 2 other people would care to spend the extra dough. Food grade compliance regulations in the US are a bit tougher than anywhere else best I can tell.

Hi Lendaddy! I just bought one. Dropped $23 (plus shipping...) for an 18 ounce double wall Purica. I would have spent $25 to $30 for a double wall 18 to 27 ounce without an issue.

For single wall 18-27 ounce, I think about $15 to $18 would be all I'd spend (not counting shipping). I went to 3 different stores before I gave up and headed on-line. The single wall stuff made in china is about $11 to $14 in our local stores.

Is the problem that our manufacturing costs are so high? Or is this an environmentally unpleasant item to manufacture?

Seriously - I thought there would be about 50 US makers... Figured I'd be tripping over them. :(

edit - I know this is alot of money to spend on a water bottle - but I intend to have it for decades... You're talking to the same person who had her first blow dryer for 27 years....

angela

porsche4life 02-15-2009 06:07 PM

Angela. What is wrong with the $10 basic nalgene. I have found them to be excellent on backpacking trips.

old man neri 02-15-2009 06:11 PM

I think my preferred canteen would be a metal one with a very wide opening. That way I could store survival stuff in it and I could also use it to boil water in. Of course I am viewing this from a survival standpoint and not a hiking stand point.

lendaddy 02-15-2009 06:22 PM

No not environmentally difficult, but getting approved for food grade is often a pain the royal asss. A product like that is all about tooling costs, not material or manufacture.

It would without question cost more to make in America so no one is going to spend all the money to tool up in the hopes people will give a damn that it's made in America. That's just the sad truth.

jyl 02-15-2009 09:23 PM

I read a bit on aluminium and health.

Per the CDC, an average American ingests 7-9 mg aluminium daily. Aluminium is in some processed foods like flour, in some medicines like antacids and aspirin, and some cosmetics. Drinking water typically has <0.1 mg/l of aluminium, but can have up to 1 mg/l. A relationship between aluminium and disease, including Alzheimers, has not been established. The levels of aluminium released by cooking in unlined aluminium cookware is considers safe. That is per the CDC, anyway.


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