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126coupe 02-17-2009 11:04 AM

Question about "tinning"
 
One of my copper saute pans is ready for tinning, I really don't want to ship it and have it done. Has anyone ever tinned anything?
You can see by the image the copper is starting to show through.
I love this pan I have been cooking with it since 1983.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234901014.jpg

onlycafe 02-17-2009 11:43 AM

i tried a retinning kit on on of mine about twenty years ago and was less than thrilled with the result. i think that it may have been me to blame though. where can you send them to be redone? any idea about how much?

126coupe 02-17-2009 12:17 PM

There is a place in Rhode Island and PA. Sounds like a process, you have to strip the old and apply the new, I most likely will have it done, the problem is every place is east coast

jyl 02-17-2009 12:28 PM

East Coast Retinning does it for $4 per inch, "inch" defined as 2 X height + 1 X diameter.

They strip off the old tin, remove any dents, polish the exterior, pour molten tin in the pot and brush to coat. I haven't used but have been studying their website since have two copper pots that need this work.

My friend tried a home retinning kit, the problem is the unevenly worn old tin surface makes the new tin surface also uneven.

126coupe 02-17-2009 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4491527)
East Coast Retinning does it for $4 per inch, "inch" defined as 2 X height + 1 X diameter.

They strip off the old tin, remove any dents, polish the exterior, pour molten tin in the pot and brush to coat. I haven't used but have been studying their website since have two copper pots that need this work.

My friend tried a home retinning kit, the problem is the unevenly worn old tin surface makes the new tin surface also uneven.

I have been talking to east coast tinning, Nice people, I think they are a good choice.
$68.00 for my pan, I wish I did not just spend an hour polishing the exterior since it's included in the price.

jyl 02-17-2009 12:43 PM

Do you use Twinkle on the exterior? Or elbow grease?

126coupe 02-17-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4491563)
Do you use Twinkle on the exterior? Or elbow grease?

Elbow grease and metal polish;)

126coupe 02-17-2009 12:57 PM

It's very sad, al-clad, calphalon ect are all made in China now.
My old Calphalon was made in the USA.
I will not buy any Chinese cookware, I would rather buy French or Italian.

jyl 02-17-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 126coupe (Post 4491571)
Elbow grease and metal polish;)

If you haven't tried Twinkle, do try it once. Let the pot get brown and oxidized from a nice long cooking session, then rub on the green paste.

trekkor 02-17-2009 02:49 PM

I am not familiar with copperware at all.

Why is the tin needed. Why not a solid copper pot?


KT

trekkor 02-17-2009 02:51 PM

Couldn't you just sandblast, polish the interior and go to work?


KT

trekkor 02-17-2009 02:53 PM

http://www.copperware.com/Merchant2/...trsaucepan.jpg
http://www.copperware.com/


KT :confused:

DARISC 02-17-2009 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 4491755)
Why not a solid copper pot?

Because it will poison you.

"Copper pots and pans are usually lined with another metal. This lining protects the food and the copper. Without the lining the copper would react to certain types of food. This chemical reaction may cause food poisoning. In the United States there are only two types of pure copper items that are allowed in a kitchen. These are saucepans that are only used for caramelizing sugar and bowls for beating egg whites."

on2wheels52 02-17-2009 03:19 PM

Our Calphalon set must have been near the end, I would like to have my mom's Revere Ware pans, even the one my dad tried to re-attach the handle to (after running over it with a tractor; we used to get lunch in the field carried out in one, I didn't know what a lunch box was until I was in my twenties; jeeze, and coffee in a mason jar, how come we never had a Thermos?) with an arc welder.
Jim

jyl 02-17-2009 04:11 PM

The unlined copper stuff you see is usually just decorative.

Nowadays you can get copper pots with a stainless steel liner that doesn't need renewing like a tin liner does. This supposedly also allows you to use higher heat that you wouldn't do with a tin lined pot. (Tin melts around 450F). The steel is also more resistant to scratching, with tin lining you are supposed to use wooden utensils.

However, I've read that excessive heat is still bad for the steel-lined pots because copper and steel expand at different rates when heated. So, bottom line, when you want to apply nuclear heat, use a cast iron skillet. Copper pots are valued for their even heating and heat retention, not any ability to simulate a jet engine.

mossguy 02-17-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 126coupe (Post 4491579)
It's very sad, al-clad, calphalon ect are all made in China now.
My old Calphalon was made in the USA.
I will not buy any Chinese cookware, I would rather buy French or Italian.

It sounds like All-Clad is still made in PA, or at least some portion.

From the all clad web-site:

Today, from its rolling mill in Southwest Pennsylvania, All-Clad Metalcrafters is the only bonded cookware manufacturer who utilizes American craftsmen and American-made metals to produce a complete line of finished bonded cookware products.

Best,
Tom

126coupe 02-17-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossguy (Post 4492208)
It sounds like All-Clad is still made in PA, or at least some portion.

From the all clad web-site:

Today, from its rolling mill in Southwest Pennsylvania, All-Clad Metalcrafters is the only bonded cookware manufacturer who utilizes American craftsmen and American-made metals to produce a complete line of finished bonded cookware products.

Best,
Tom

I was at a Retail Store and they verified Al Clad is made in China with US design and US metals. They farm out the labor to China like most products.
My Mother bought my Calfalon (sp) for my wife and I in 1979, Stamped on the bottom of the cookware, its obvious that it was made in the USA, I would be curious to know what year the labor was farmed to China???

126coupe 02-17-2009 06:27 PM

This is Quality, that thin display stuff is crap! I prefer 2.0-3.0MM thickness
Porsche vs. ???? fill in the blankhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234927563.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234927575.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234927588.jpg

mossguy 02-17-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 126coupe (Post 4492253)
I was at a Retail Store and they verified Al Clad is made in China with US design and US metals. They farm out the labor to China like most products.
My Mother bought my Calfalon (sp) for my wife and I in 1979, Stamped on the bottom of the cookware, its obvious that it was made in the USA, I would be curious to know what year the labor was farmed to China???

126coupe - Thanks for the update, sad to see.

Best,
Tom

Don Plumley 02-17-2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 126coupe (Post 4492279)
This is Quality, that thin display stuff is crap! I prefer 2.0-3.0MM thickness
Porsche vs. ???? fill in the blankhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234927563.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234927575.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1234927588.jpg

That's a pot. Nice.


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