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efhughes3 02-21-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by campbellcj (Post 4499261)
It's definitely the case that some strong companies are taking advantage of the timing to clean-house of dead weight.

I'm making more money than ever, and still hiring. Solid businesses can ride through these cycles. The others that can't should shut their doors and their people should compete for jobs with the stronger survivors. That my friends is capitalism.

You paint to broad a stroke on that statement. Not all businesses and fields are hit the same. Our company is as solid as any, more so than most. We've been running lean manufacturing for 10 years and are poised to weather a storm-within reason. We've adjusted budgets to where we think they need to be, as best as anyone can envision at this time.

But, as a durable goods manufacturer we depend on customers placing orders to keep going. Right now, most aren't. Unless something does change in the next several months, I do envision more serious maneuvers to adapt.

jyl 02-21-2009 10:28 AM

What do you do?

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It's definitely the case that some strong companies are taking advantage of the timing to clean-house of dead weight.<br>
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I'm making more money than ever, and still hiring. Solid businesses can ride through these cycles. The others that can't should shut their doors and their people should compete for jobs with the stronger survivors. That my friends is capitalism.

jcommin 02-21-2009 10:47 AM

No raises this year. Salaried personal taken 4% cut in pay for the first and second quarter. Hourly people working 37.5 hour work week.

I'm looking at small bonus from last years performance in late March.

Not pretty out there.

Hard-Deck 02-21-2009 11:29 AM

$1200/mo raise in December. No layoffs in sight. Of course I have to put my life on the line at at times.

Aurel 02-21-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Snapper33 (Post 4499560)
$1200/mo raise in December. No layoffs in sight. Of course I have to put my life on the line at at times.

Do tell more about the job...$1200/mo raise seems exceptional.

Hard-Deck 02-21-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 4499575)
Do tell more about the job...$1200/mo raise seems exceptional.

Army officer

campbellcj 02-21-2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 4499465)
What do you do?

Niche enterprise software business. We are very small but highly profitable and have survived tough times before.

I didn't mean to sound totally heartless earlier, but all this nonsense with the government bailouts and the new "save jobs at any cost" mentality really, really bugs me.

jyl 02-21-2009 09:45 PM

Over the past few quarters, publicly traded enterprise software companies have not reported much weakness. At IBM and HPQ the software segment has been much stronger than the hardware segments. Similar with the small cap software companies we look at. In the last quarter, some cracks have appeared. Sales cycles longer, conversion lower. But still overall doing well. Big contrast from the hardware and semi companies that I mostly look at, where even the best companies are struggling to protect profitability in the rapid downturn since fall 08. I'm skeptical that this benign state continues. I expect enterprise software to get hit hard before this is over. That is a general comment, not a comment on your business.

jyl 02-21-2009 09:55 PM

Reporting from the finance side, it is ugly which is no surprise. Our parent company has laid off 1/3, cut all salaries by 10%, bonus pool is 1/3 of last year, all the other opex savings measures. My group has not been affected by any of that, but there is a lot of pain going on around us.

Neilk 02-22-2009 08:19 AM

For once I'm happy to be in healthcare. Our side of the company sells claims billing software for hospitals. We're hiring.

I got a small bonus and should be getting a raise, but that is long over due in my case.

Scott R 02-22-2009 08:44 AM

Just got a large bonus, and everyone gets raises this year. My company kept our health care prices the same as last year by kicking in a little. My company is also allowing what we call "band 7" and higher to offshore our work address to keep us from additional taxes this next year.

The only issue we have is that consumer debt is going down, but that's only a small area of where we make our money. On the upside we service a lot of government debt which means we are going to show a nice profit this year.

This is "banking" btw, if you ever see a "star" emblem on an ATM or a red "telecheck" sign on a cash register, that's us.

J P Stein 02-22-2009 08:54 AM

I work for Boeing....one of them greedy union guys. A small layoff is in the works. They tell us that this is it for the year.....nobody believes that of course, but it's the company line.
After 9/11 (no offense, guys:D) the cuts were close to 50%. Over the next year or 2 there is no reason to believe this will be any different.

bigsid 02-22-2009 10:54 AM

No bonus this year...... no raises for the last eight years......... just big increases in in the amount we pay for health insurance......... sales are booming..... but at least I have a steady job and am near retirement .. if my 401 ever comes back!!


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