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jeffgrant 03-20-2009 03:59 PM

Fun Shooting Demo
 
Just had this link sent to me.

Seems pretty damn accurate to me.

More for the technical shooter, rather than the "guns blazing" types.


http://www.shooterready.com/lrsdemo.html

MT930 03-20-2009 08:15 PM

I have played with this quite a bit.
I used to do a lot of 500yrd + bench shooting this simulator could really help some one get it figured out.
It's very well done. The one I used is from a different site than this link.

911Rob 03-20-2009 09:46 PM

Fun, thanks Jeff.

Call me sniperRob from now on ;)

slodave 03-20-2009 10:04 PM

That was not easy, but I didn't really try and calculate anything. I'll have to try again later.

slodave 03-20-2009 10:08 PM

That's better...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1237615704.jpg

Porsche-O-Phile 03-21-2009 01:07 PM

Very cool. Do you have this? My guess is it's well worth the $40 to learn the mechanics of long-range shooting inside out & backwards before you're spending a lot of $$$ to send lead downrange trial & error style, but just asking.

I see .308 and .50BMG - are there other calibers as well or can you program in trajectory points based on the ammunition you're using?

jeffgrant 03-21-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 4558761)
Very cool. Do you have this? My guess is it's well worth the $40 to learn the mechanics of long-range shooting inside out & backwards before you're spending a lot of $$$ to send lead downrange trial & error style, but just asking.

I see .308 and .50BMG - are there other calibers as well or can you program in trajectory points based on the ammunition you're using?

Don't have it myself, but very seriously considering getting it. (Or writing my own, simpler version).


This page has some details: http://shooterready.com/lrs.html

emcon5 03-21-2009 04:44 PM

Does anyone actually adjust the scope for long range shooting? I have always just zeroed the rifle at 200 yards and left it alone. I just modify my aim point based on range and the wind.

Tom

Porsche-O-Phile 03-21-2009 04:51 PM

If you want to go in on it, let me know. Seriously considering just to make sure my mechanics are sharp (I hate getting to the range and having to fumble around "re-learning" everything).

jeffgrant 03-21-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emcon5 (Post 4559052)
Does anyone actually adjust the scope for long range shooting? I have always just zeroed the rifle at 200 yards and left it alone. I just modify my aim point based on range and the wind.

Tom

Depends on the type of shooting you're doing, and the scope you have, in my opinion.


When I'm bench shooting in a match, yes, I adjust the scope. But my scope is also designed to do that really easily. That way I'm always mentally shooting the same sight picture, and the correction math is forgotten, allowing me to concentrate on making that one shot the same way as I've made the thousands of previous ones.


When I'm hunting, I don't... I just slightly adjust my sight picture based on conditions. Not only is the target big enough that it doesn't really matter, but I also have a mil-dot scope reticle that makes that kind of thing really easy to do. As well, my hunting scope is sealed up pretty well to keep it better protected from the elements, so the adjustment requires removing covers, etc. No time to do that in the 1/2 second you get to shoot at a running deer.

emcon5 03-21-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffgrant (Post 4559230)
When I'm hunting, I don't... I just slightly adjust my sight picture based on conditions. Not only is the target big enough that it doesn't really matter, but I also have a mil-dot scope reticle that makes that kind of thing really easy to do.

I have a Mil-Dot as well, but I don't use it for ranging in the traditional method, as the targets are too small to accurately range using the mil-dot system beyond about 300 yards, and frankly my eye is good enough that close.

What I did is using calculated ballistics, I use the mil-dots as aiming reference points for known ranges. It is easier to show than explain, so here is my cheat sheet:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1237692502.jpg

So if I estimate the target is ~400 yards away, I hold halfway between the first and second dots, and hold into the wind as needed.

That shooting sim may give you a better understanding of the fundamentals, there really is no substitute for good, old-fashioned trigger time.

Tom


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