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stomachmonkey 03-26-2009 10:29 AM

More Good Cop Bad Cop?
 
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/032609dnmetcopstop.3e9c080.html

Guy who got pulled over is a bit obnoxious at first but does calm down but the officer certainly drags his lecture out way longer than he needs to.

David 03-26-2009 10:36 AM

What happened to cops helping people run stoplights to get to the hospital?

I imagine this cop is off the force in few days.

dhoward 03-26-2009 11:09 AM

How in the fk can a cop who's been told by the hospital staff that the guys mother is dying be such an ass?
He didn't "blow the red light". He stopped first.
What a douche.

m21sniper 03-26-2009 11:21 AM

I posted this in PARF. I figured it would get testy.

About all i can say, is they're "lucky" they didn't get freakin' Tazered by da man.

I'm actually half shocked that the cop didn't taze the woman as she ignored him to run to be at her mother's bedside. He probably didn't have one is all.

Bet he would have if he did.

Then making the guy stand there while he strokes his big douche control freak ego writing him a ticket.

What a country.

onlycafe 03-26-2009 11:24 AM

police officer was being a dick. man stopped was in a terrible situation. he was however, a dope.
if it was my mother though i guess that i would be a dope too, i would have explained the situation and given him my license and told him to shoot me in the back as i went into the hospital.

m21sniper 03-26-2009 11:37 AM

That's when the tazer comes out. As i said, it's probably fortunate that he didn't have one. :-/

onewhippedpuppy 03-26-2009 11:46 AM

"It had been about 13 minutes.

Moats and Collinsworth’s father went into the hospital, where they found Collinsworth had died, with her daughter at her side."

That's pretty wrong. Probably not a coincidence that they were black and the cop chose to pull his gun. Hopefully the racist SOB loses his job over this, it makes the good cops look bad.

stomachmonkey 03-26-2009 12:41 PM

I think what I find most disturbing is the officers 1st comment.

You spot a vehicle already running with hazards on at night and follow it into an ER parking lot.

I would expect the 1st thing to be "are you OK?, do you have a medical emergency?"

The entire incident very likely proceeds in a completely different direction.

Rikao4 03-26-2009 12:50 PM

similar incident..
as he blabbered on about this and that ..
I started walking toward the ER..
where are you going..?
inside...
I'm writing you a ticket..
fine..leave it on the seat.
he did..I paid it.

Rika

scottbombedout 03-26-2009 02:20 PM

Bully in a uniform.

Gogar 03-26-2009 02:48 PM

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ZLP 03-26-2009 03:00 PM

A medical emergency does NOT give anyone the right to break traffic laws and drive recklessly. That is why we have emergency vehicles people.

Moses 03-26-2009 04:17 PM

Officer was begging for an asskicking. BEGGING. Tremendous restraint shown by the man who was stopped.

dhoward 03-26-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 4569550)
A medical emergency does NOT give anyone the right to break traffic laws and drive recklessly. That is why we have emergency vehicles people.

:rolleyes:
Thanks, dad.

stomachmonkey 03-26-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 4569550)
A medical emergency does NOT give anyone the right to break traffic laws and drive recklessly. That is why we have emergency vehicles people.

A badge does not give someone the right to act like an ________ !

FWIW it does not appear that Mr Moats was driving recklessly, in fact it appears he showed tremendous restraint. I have no doubt that officer would have written him for everything that he could have.

gprsh924 03-26-2009 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 4569550)
A medical emergency does NOT give anyone the right to break traffic laws and drive recklessly. That is why we have emergency vehicles people.

I do not consider stopping at a redlight and then getting waved on by another motorist to go through as driving recklessly.

But then again what do I know. I ignore red turn arrows and will treat stoplights as stop-signs late at night when there is no traffic. I guess I am just reckless.

Rick Lee 03-26-2009 06:13 PM

And don't forget the bikes. When I'm the only one at a red light that runs on ground sensors, I don't weigh enough to trip the light. I go through when it's safe to do so.

9dreizig 03-26-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP (Post 4569550)
A medical emergency does NOT give anyone the right to break traffic laws and drive recklessly. That is why we have emergency vehicles people.

Help me out here, you did mean for that to be in green right ? I mean nobody really thinks like this... right???

willtel 03-26-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 4569947)
Help me out here, you did mean for that to be in green right ? I mean nobody really thinks like this... right???

ZLP is on the other side of the thin blue line, for him it is simply another 'us against them' scenario.

Moses 03-26-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9dreizig (Post 4569947)
Help me out here, you did mean for that to be in green right ? I mean nobody really thinks like this... right???

Pretty sure he was kidding. Nobody really thinks that way.

speeder 03-26-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 4569291)
I think what I find most disturbing is the officers 1st comment.

You spot a vehicle already running with hazards on at night and follow it into an ER parking lot.

I would expect the 1st thing to be "are you OK?, do you have a medical emergency?"

The entire incident very likely proceeds in a completely different direction.

Ab-so-fuking-lutely. You think if a bunch of rich-looking white people w/ a "W '04" sticker on their SUV jumped out at the ER door, they would have been ordered to put their hands on the car?? Disgusting. Yes, running a red light is an infraction. It's also an infraction that is completely ignored when someone is about to give birth or bleeding to death in the backseat. This does not rise to that level of emergency but the fact that the cop does not even ask after they drove to the ER w/ him behind them w/ sirens on is unbelievable. Then the cop threatens the guy again and again with all of the bad things he "could do" to him, just seems like terrible unprofessionalism. Being a good cop is all about using judgement and discretion on the street, this guy was a robot.

I know that cops deal with jerk-hole people as well who deserve no breaks but I thought that this guy was awfully calm considering the way he was being treated. :cool:

fintstone 03-26-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 4570074)
Ab-so-fuking-lutely. You think if a bunch of rich-looking white people w/ a "W '04" sticker on their SUV jumped out at the ER door, they would have been ordered to put their hands on the car?? ...

Exactly how they treat me when I get stopped. In my experience, in a nighttime stop ...if someone gets out of the car...much less a bunch of folks jumping out...they are going to be put at a disadvantage. If they had been the least bit cooperative...they would have been free to go in seconds.

stomachmonkey 03-26-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 4570091)
Exactly how they treat me when I get stopped. In my experience, in a nighttime stop ...if someone gets out of the car...much less a bunch of folks jumping out...they are going to be put at a disadvantage. If they had been the least bit cooperative...they would have been free to go in seconds.

You get guns pulled on you during night time stops? You must be one scary dude.

This officer lacks good judgement and discretion. A good cop would have recognized the emotional distress that this family was under and adjusted his approach accordingly.

He could easily have gone inside with the family and dealt with it there.

He had back up, another cop had pulled up within a minute of the cars stopping.

He states very calmly and clearly a minute or so into the stop that "it was not a chase"

That encounter could have gone any way he wanted it to go.

Even after the initial emotional outburst by Moats, when he has calmed down and is clearly being compliant, composed and respectful to the officer the POS cop obviously drags the stop out even longer by lecturing Moats for several more minutes.

This is all after the hospital security have informed the officer that the m-in law was inside dying, after a nurse has come out and said that Moats needs to come inside NOW. This is after the cop has already determined that there are no outstanding warrants for Moats.

This officer was in control of the situation from pretty much the beginning but still he chose to punish Moats.

The guy is a POS.

Rick Lee 03-26-2009 07:44 PM

I saw a news conf. clip by the cop's chief today. He was very apologetic. I wonder if anything will happen to the cop.

speeder 03-26-2009 08:02 PM

I sure hope so. Maybe a month off w/o pay and a big shyt stain in his personnel folder would suffice and keep the next guy from abusing his power.


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