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DasBoot 03-29-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by t951 (Post 4574754)
An officer's testimony is no different than mine.

Hmm...never thought of that. Thanks. I'll try that line with the judge next time I'm in court.

TSNAPCRACKLEPOP 03-29-2009 11:10 AM

I tell them i was warning drivers of deer crossing the road

DasBoot 03-29-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 4574741)
No, you listed those statutes as laws against flashing your high beams. You were incorrect.

OK. Drive down the street in the prescence of a cop while clicking your high-beams on/off/on/off (repeat). Let us know how it goes, mm-kay?

While there may not be a specific law against it, the cop could cite you using any of the above, and, depending on the mood of the judge, it could stick.

Oh...and I'm never incorrect.

Mothy 03-29-2009 11:13 AM

And unless that was the truth it would be Perjury - not a smart option for a 'Citizen' and one that gets you in a lot more trouble than the speeding ticket.

A high court judge in New South Wales claimed he was not driving his car at the time it was caught in a speed trap. Turned out the person he claimed was driving had died some years ago. The judge is was sentenced to 3 years jail, minimum 2 yrs non-parole.

Down here in Australia you would get done for use of High Beam against oncoming traffic.

Gogar 03-29-2009 11:17 AM

You guys are so cute, thinking cops have to PROVE it. :(

scottbombedout 03-29-2009 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 4574827)
You guys are so cute, thinking cops have to PROVE it. :(

I know, that is the funniest thing of the lot.

Maybe there is a twilight zone out there full of cops who wouldnt mind you flashing :D

daepp 03-29-2009 12:04 PM

Someone saved me once with a flash of their lights.

I have read a motor mag news story in the last few years of someone being convicted of warning of a speed trap with a flash of their lights. Doesn't seem right.

We need an Automobile Club that looks out for drivers' interests - unlike the AAA. There was an attempt at a coup at AAA but AFAIK it failed.

varmint 03-29-2009 12:42 PM

we tap our helmets. can create a false sense of security. just because somebody doesn't give the signal doesn't mean there isn't a trap two corners ahead.

KarlCarrera 03-29-2009 12:42 PM

I also flash and love the wave back, like 911Rob. Works both ways, I've saved a few folks and I've been saved myself. No problems with the cops yet, and don't know if it's illegal here in Colorado or not. My luck, I'll find out tomorrow.

Karl
88 Targa

BeyGon 03-29-2009 12:52 PM

I flash people when I pass the radar guys, I have had people flash me and it may have helped. I first saw this driving in Central America, in the 80s, people did it all the time and you loved them for it.

70SATMan 03-29-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4574822)
OK. Drive down the street in the prescence of a cop while clicking your high-beams on/off/on/off (repeat). Let us know how it goes, mm-kay?

While there may not be a specific law against it, the cop could cite you using any of the above, and, depending on the mood of the judge, it could stick.

Oh...and I'm never incorrect.

In California it is common to flash oncoming traffic as a heads up to dim their high beams at night. It is also common to flash on-comming traffic as a warning they have a road hazzard ahead of them, day or night. It is also common in the mountians to flash someone ahead of you who is in the slow lane who is wanting to make a lane change to overtake slower traffic. It's like a "By all means". I myself have even flashed CHP who have come up fast onto the highway on-ramps (without lights on but, definitely in a hurry) letting them know I see them and to allow them to change lanes in front of me.

I've never met nor heard of anyone being cited much less pulled over by any of the above actions.

70SATMan 03-29-2009 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4574822)
Oh...and I'm never incorrect.

Oh, I guess you are only correct after you edited your original post by adding your last paragraph of statutes. That is a classic example of pussified revisionist history. mm-kay?

nostatic 03-29-2009 02:34 PM

Motorcyclists do this all the time by either tapping the helmet to an oncoming rider or doing the one handed downward wave (ie "slow down/go easy"). Usually helmet tap for cop and other for bad conditions but it varies. I have never heard of a motorcyclist being cited for this.

As for the high beams, if there is a speed trap one could argue that is a potentially dangerous situation. What if the cop is pulling into traffic to pull someone over? That is a hazard. Better safe than sorry.

not legally binding of course...

DasBoot 03-29-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 4575078)
Oh, I guess you are only correct after you edited your original post by adding your last paragraph of statutes. That is a classic example of pussified revisionist history. mm-kay?

I was adding as I found them, pussifist. You opened your mouth prematurely. Mm-kay?

DasBoot 03-29-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 4575075)
In California it is common to flash oncoming traffic as a heads up to dim their high beams at night. It is also common to flash on-comming traffic as a warning they have a road hazzard ahead of them, day or night. It is also common in the mountians to flash someone ahead of you who is in the slow lane who is wanting to make a lane change to overtake slower traffic. It's like a "By all means". I myself have even flashed CHP who have come up fast onto the highway on-ramps (without lights on but, definitely in a hurry) letting them know I see them and to allow them to change lanes in front of me.

I've never met nor heard of anyone being cited much less pulled over by any of the above actions.

The CVC specifically permits flashing headlights from behind as a signal when attempting to overtake a vehicle. You cannot flash your lights at an on-coming vehicle. Suggest doing your homework before embarassing yourself further.

the 03-29-2009 06:09 PM

settle down danny boy.

DasBoot 03-29-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the (Post 4575561)
settle down danny boy.

Eh...there's always one.

70SATMan 03-29-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DasBoot (Post 4575546)
Suggest doing your homework before embarassing yourself further.

Homework for what? I explained common occurances and my experiences. Tell me if I'm wrong but, if you do at least nut up and explain why. I've not stated anything as a fact except pointing out your red "flashing turn signal" herring.

I think you're just feeling a bit bent at being caught using shoddy research is all. It's all good. Must have searched for "flashing" huh? Lucky you didn't do that on Google. Just imagine what'd turn up.:D

DasBoot 03-29-2009 07:51 PM

I carried (and read) the CVC with me for 15 yrs. Know it like the back of my hand.

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Originally Posted by 70SATMan (Post 4575765)
Homework for what? I explained common occurances and my experiences. Tell me if I'm wrong but, if you do at least nut up and explain why. I've not stated anything as a fact except pointing out your red "flashing turn signal" herring.

I think you're just feeling a bit bent at being caught using shoddy research is all. It's all good. Must have searched for "flashing" huh? Lucky you didn't do that on Google. Just imagine what'd turn up.:D


911Rob 03-29-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 4575114)
Motorcyclists do this all the time by either tapping the helmet to an oncoming rider or doing the one handed downward wave (ie "slow down/go easy"). Usually helmet tap for cop and other for bad conditions but it varies. I have never heard of a motorcyclist being cited for this.

As for the high beams, if there is a speed trap one could argue that is a potentially dangerous situation. What if the cop is pulling into traffic to pull someone over? That is a hazard. Better safe than sorry.

not legally binding of course...

Didn't know that. Thanks.

Now I've notice that alot of semi trucks have a small green light on their drivers side mirror and I'm wondering if this is a signal to other drivers at night? Maybe they turn it red if there's a cop or trouble ahead? Does anyone know what that green light is? I've seen it more and more lately.


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