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rattlsnak 04-17-2009 06:26 PM

anybody want to by a mig 23?
 
ran across these migs at a small airport in the texas panhandle..
story goes: some guy moves out of the big city to the sticks, finds an investor, goes to poland and bys 10 mig 23s which are taken apart and shipped to the airport in texas. he claims that he is building them for the airforce to use as drones, or for anybody who basically has the money to buy one. 3 years later, two are assembled and running, but not flying, and the rest??? see below..

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porsche4life 04-17-2009 06:28 PM

Whats his price?

rattlsnak 04-17-2009 06:29 PM

here is some stats.. http://www.enemyforces.net/aircraft/mig23.htm

dont know the price, ill see what i can find out tomorrow..

speeder 04-17-2009 07:05 PM

God, I can't imagine how much fun it would be to fly a fighter jet. Any fighter jet. Could any civilian w/ a pilots license fly one if he owned it? (Training obviously necessary). Would sure freak the **** out of the rest of the general aviation traffic.

red-beard 04-17-2009 08:21 PM

Note: some assembly required...

Aerkuld 04-17-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 4613208)
Note: some assembly required...

Do you think you would you need a mig welder?

porsche4life 04-17-2009 11:28 PM

Oh where in the TX panhandle btw. I get the feeling you are not too far away.

911pcars 04-17-2009 11:44 PM

That would be a good (and rare) source for aircraft-quality metric fasteners.

Sherwood

slodave 04-17-2009 11:46 PM

Group buy?

DUK 04-18-2009 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aerkuld (Post 4613221)
Do you think you would you need a mig welder?

Now that's funny.



Looks like he wants to start his own air force. I would like to know how much he has invested. I seem to remember back a few years you could buy a mig for pennies on the dollar. I do some welding for a guy who is restroing a mig23ub and he told me he paid less for his, in flying condition, than a small single engine plane.

Embraer 04-18-2009 05:53 AM

...but just burns more in gas everytime he flies it than the cost of a single engine plane, haha.

Tim Hancock 04-18-2009 06:20 AM

There is a lot of FAA red tape to be dealt with. I have not read up on the regulations recently, but it may not even be possible any more. IIRC, the aircraft would have to be operated with some type of restricted or experimental certificate.

Porsche_monkey 04-18-2009 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 4613675)
There is a lot of FAA red tape to be dealt with. I have not read up on the regulations recently, but it may not even be possible any more. IIRC, the aircraft would have to be operated with some type of restricted or experimental certificate.

Or just at night.

Embraer 04-18-2009 07:06 AM

http://www.classicjets.org/faq.html

azasadny 04-19-2009 06:45 AM

I saw one of these get shot down during Desert Storm...

charleskieffner 04-19-2009 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 4613675)
There is a lot of FAA red tape to be dealt with. I have not read up on the regulations recently, but it may not even be possible any more. IIRC, the aircraft would have to be operated with some type of restricted or experimental certificate.


"EXPERIMENTAL" mmmmmm another way of saying "lab test rat!"

rouxroux 04-19-2009 07:29 AM

These will be part of Gov. Perry's new Texas Air Force, flying (northern)border patrol against those rascally folks from Oklahoma and New Mexico.


"Howdy pardner...don't mess with Texas"!;)

varmint 04-19-2009 08:18 AM

i remember right after the berlin wall fell, trade-a-plane was full of MIG-15s. everyone from poland to egypt was dumping them for $30,000 and less.

porsche4life 04-19-2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rouxroux (Post 4615095)
These will be part of Gov. Perry's new Texas Air Force, flying (northern)border patrol against those rascally folks from Oklahoma and New Mexico.


"Howdy pardner...don't mess with Texas"!;)

If that were to go down I'm shaggin to Canada. Have no interest in fighting in a war in my backyard.

Aurel 04-19-2009 04:31 PM

So, when Texas seccedes, the State can buy them for the new Texas airforce !

rattlsnak 04-19-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 4613464)
Oh where in the TX panhandle btw. I get the feeling you are not too far away.

Borger, Tx. and the guy wasnt around when we left so I couldnt get any more info... But in talking to some other people around there, they all HIGHLY doubt that the two finished ones will ever fly and that the other ones will never be built.

porsche4life 04-19-2009 07:00 PM

Thats quite aways but I have been through there a few times.

nostatic 04-19-2009 07:16 PM

I'd buy one, but I need to save my vacuum tubes for my guitar amps...

m21sniper 04-19-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 4615836)
So, when Texas seccedes, the State can buy them for the new Texas airforce !

The Texas ANG has a couple hundred F-16C's, they're good. ;)

Eric Coffey 04-19-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 4616119)
But in talking to some other people around there, they all HIGHLY doubt that the two finished ones will ever fly and that the other ones will never be built.

Kinda what I'm thinking. To most, they would barely be above scrap value (consindering the cost to make one airworthy/legal). Just check out all of the hardware in my backyard (Tucson) that is wasting away:

AMARC, Tucson

:eek:

rtoms 04-21-2009 08:00 PM

holy moly, look at all those planes! what i wouldnt give to be in a fighter jet, topgun makes me wanna fly so bad

azasadny 04-23-2009 04:02 AM

Sorry, I thought this was about a Sig 230...

Gooch1971 04-23-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

These will be part of Gov. Perry's new Texas Air Force, flying (northern)border patrol against those rascally folks from Oklahoma and New Mexico.<br>
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"Howdy pardner...don't mess with Texas"!<img src="../../ultimate/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg">
Don't short-change OK...

We'll be flying our missions against the Big XII North come late August.

gt350mike 04-23-2009 03:32 PM

As Bob Parker would say "The average retail price is......"??????

What is the going rate for a Mig kit plane????

dd74 04-23-2009 04:27 PM

A privately-owned MIG flies out of Burbank Airport now and then. It really shows what kind of fun a lot of money can get a person.

I wonder how long it takes the pilot to fly to Vegas? Does he (or she) have to obey airspeed laws? :cool:

Racerbvd 04-23-2009 05:23 PM

There is a local guy who owns a gun shop who use to have one, not sure if he still does, but he kept where a friend use store his plane.

There is also a business that takes you up in combat jets for simulated dog fights:D


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