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onewhippedpuppy 04-30-2009 06:54 AM

Taking your kid into a liquor store
 
Anyone else feel weird about it? When I say kid, I mean like my 5 year old. It's a strange quirk I seem to have, because I've never tried to hide drinking from my kids. My son knows what beer is and that kids can't drink it. I normally have a beer with dinner or in the evening, and this weekend I'll have a houseful of friends that will all be drinking their fair share.

So I'm not shy about drinking and my kids, why do I feel weird about taking him into the liquor store with me?

gr8fl4porsche 04-30-2009 06:57 AM

Not sure why you feel that way, I have no problem with it. My 5 yo daughter likes to go to the fridge and get me a beer. Why she plays 'waitress' she asks if I would like water, milk, coffee or a beer when she takes my drink order.

stomachmonkey 04-30-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 4636495)
Anyone else feel weird about it? When I say kid, I mean like my 5 year old. It's a strange quirk I seem to have, because I've never tried to hide drinking from my kids. My son knows what beer is and that kids can't drink it. I normally have a beer with dinner or in the evening, and this weekend I'll have a houseful of friends that will all be drinking their fair share.

So I'm not shy about drinking and my kids, why do I feel weird about taking him into the liquor store with me?

Because you are concerned that you may be perceived as a low life lush?

I would not worry about it.

Now if you take him along when you go hooker and blow shopping.....

gprsh924 04-30-2009 07:01 AM

As long as these aren't daily visits to the liquor store, I think you are fine.

Speedo959 04-30-2009 07:03 AM

The Arab liquor stores around here usually have the smut stuff at little ones eye level. Seems like a no brainer to me.

dhoward 04-30-2009 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedo959 (Post 4636514)
The Arab liquor stores around here usually have the smut stuff at little ones eye level. Seems like a no brainer to me.

So you can get beer and sex ed for the kid at the same time?
Sweet!

Rot 911 04-30-2009 07:09 AM

My favorite is going to court for criminal law docket day and seeing defendants there with their kids. Truly a magical moment.

GG Allin 04-30-2009 07:11 AM

When I was a kid I used to love going into liquor stores with my dad. I remember there was always cool stuff to look at. Beer cans were a big thing in the 70's too. Alot of beer cans to look at in liquor stores. I turned out fine, I think.

Zeke 04-30-2009 07:18 AM

Lots more in a LQS than booze. Buy him an ice cream.

legion 04-30-2009 07:20 AM

I never went into a liquor store as a kid, but then again, my parents didn't drink at all either.

porkee 04-30-2009 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=onewhippedpuppy;4636495]Anyone else feel weird about it?

Not at all. I have fond memories of making regular trips to the packy w/dad for the black labels and taking a few limited supervised sips of a nice cold one. It's a good time to be open and try to teach some responsibiliy at the same time imo.

The Gaijin 04-30-2009 07:40 AM

Kids don't belong in bars - at all.

But a store is just a store. Unless they sell those real little bottles behind bullet-proof glass..

David 04-30-2009 07:42 AM

I feel weird but I still do it.

One of the weirdest times for me as a child was going to the Dallas Playboy club. I was probably 9 or 10. I'm sure it scarred me for life :D

maxnine11 04-30-2009 07:42 AM

fond memories!!

i remember, a few times a week standing outside of the liquor store with my dad, waiting for it to open. Sometimes, he'd take me to school later.







just kidding ;) http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...amingdevil.gif

widebody911 04-30-2009 07:55 AM

No, you probably shouldn't take the kid along when you're robbing liquor stores.

onewhippedpuppy 04-30-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 4636611)
No, you probably shouldn't take the kid along when you're robbing liquor stores.

But who will hold the bag?

onewhippedpuppy 04-30-2009 08:03 AM

I probably feel weird because my parents were so anti-booze. The first time I set foot in a liquor store was when I was 16, ummm, I mean 21. At least that's what the ID said.;)

HardDrive 04-30-2009 08:10 AM

We have state liquor stores here in WA, so the shops are actually pretty nice. More like a wine store that happens to sell booze. No porn, tobacco, etc. I don't drink liquor, typically only wine with occasional beer, so I have no reason to go the booze shops. You can beer and wine in the grocery store.

onewhippedpuppy 04-30-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 4636635)
We have state liquor stores here in WA, so the shops are actually pretty nice. More like a wine store that happens to sell booze. No porn, tobacco, etc. I don't drink liquor, typically only wine with occasional beer, so I have no reason to go the booze shops. You can beer and wine in the grocery store.

Around here liquor stores are just that. Grocery stores/gas stations can't sell anything with more than 3.2% alcohol in KS, so no wine or liquor for them. The only reason I buy my beer at a liquor store is price and selection. The store nearest to me is actually very nice, no porn in sight.

onlycafe 04-30-2009 08:18 AM

when i was eight i became the official martini maker for my parents and their friends.
we moved to new rochelle in 1960, i was ten years old. when my parents were going to go to the liquor store in our new town i said that i should go along to make sure they got the right kind of gin.
you could not imagine the shock i got when we walked into wykagyl liquors and there, standing behind the counter was......buffalo bob smith!

rouxroux 04-30-2009 08:32 AM

My Father was real cool about it. He had booze in the house and told me early on: "Son, you'll never have to sneak around to try liquor...If you want something, tell me, I'll pour it and we'll drink it together"...Sort of took the "mystery, temptation and intrigue" away, and I never had the urge to "sneak booze" as a kid.

(I would have felt creepy if he'd said the same thing about girls, however) ;)

javadog 04-30-2009 09:10 AM

I could be wrong about your state but around here they post signs that nobody under 21 is allowed in a liquor store, so I have always interpreted that as kids shouldn't accompany their parents into one.

It's probably a bad idea anyway, as I have raised a couple kids and they seem to have been more likely to drink because they saw their parents doing so, even though we just usually drink wine with a meal, or whatever. It's not like we are raging alcoholics and we never threw parties where everybody got plastered.

The presence of wine/beer/liquor in the house was sometimes too much temptation for my kids when they had a friend over on a Saturday night and it sometimes got sampled. My parents didn't drink in front of us (not that they drank much anyway) and as a result I didn't drink in high school or college.

JR

tabs 04-30-2009 09:28 AM

The kid will see the way you use achchol and think that is what is normal. Kids are copycats of their parents.

When I was a kid my parents would take me to to LV once or twice a year..(they dragged me everywhere).... I saw gambling at a very early age..and today even though I live in the gambling capital of the world, I won't even put a dime into a machine. I see it for what it is.

For Mother to put a quarter into a machine was for her to throw it away and I feel the same way.

So the answer is, so what if your kid is in a liquor store. its just another store. I worry mnore about your concern about the issue than the issue itself.

onewhippedpuppy 04-30-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 4636766)
I could be wrong about your state but around here they post signs that nobody under 21 is allowed in a liquor store, so I have always interpreted that as kids shouldn't accompany their parents into one.

It's probably a bad idea anyway, as I have raised a couple kids and they seem to have been more likely to drink because they saw their parents doing so, even though we just usually drink wine with a meal, or whatever. It's not like we are raging alcoholics and we never threw parties where everybody got plastered.

I think it's ok for a minor to be present, they're just not supposed to be handling the booze.

My parents never drank. To this day, I've never seen either take one drink. But they took the approach of telling me, "don't drink because it's bad". They were also very strict. So of course, I spent 16-20 absolutely hammered on a regular basis. Good times.......

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 4636805)
So the answer is, so what if your kid is in a liquor store. its just another store. I worry mnore about your concern about the issue than the issue itself.

Honestly, I can't put it together either. Maybe it's just a little bit of my parents nagging at the back of my mind? GET OUT OF MY HEAD!

tabs 04-30-2009 09:44 AM

Do you really want me to tell you where this is going to lead..This little puzzle is very easy to deconstruct.

onewhippedpuppy 04-30-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 4636840)
Do you really want me to tell you where this is going to lead..This little puzzle is very easy to deconstruct.

Do tell tabs, do tell. So long as it's not "parents as role models and you will follow the same path". My parents taught me how NOT to raise kids.

David 04-30-2009 10:55 AM

We have the "under 21" signs in Texas, but I always figured they meant without a parent. I've never been stopped.


I just read through the Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission site on this issue and found some interesting facts about the Texas laws.

1) I found nothing on children being barred from liquor stores so it's company policy, not state law.
2) There is no law that requires a person to provide valid ID to buy liquor, but it is an affirmative defense against selling to a minor if the seller saw a valid TX DL which lead them to believe the person was 21 or older.
3) It is illegal for a minor to consume alcohol, but it is an affirmative defense if the minor was in the presence of a parent or guardian.
4) It is illegal for an adult to serve alcohol to a minor, but it is an affirmative defense if the adult is their parent or guardian.

Monza_dh 04-30-2009 12:35 PM

My father took me all the time when I was a kid. He'd buy a bunch of Schlitz quart bottles to stack the fridge at home.

Is high school me and a buddy bought a few cases with our fake ID's at a local packy and I was walking out with one one my shoulder and who do I bump into on the way out?.....of course, my father. He just said "have fun guys" and walked in to get his. Still laugh thinking of that one...

mattdavis11 04-30-2009 05:26 PM

I remember being in a liquor store at a young age with my grand mother, but not my parents. However, in high school the family would hit the pizza joint every now and then, and we'd order a pitcher or two, get several glasses and drink beer while eating dinner together. Pretty cool times.

One Sunday when I was 17ish, we stopped for beer on the way home from church(after 12pm on Sun. you can buy). I hopped out of the car, walked in, bought a case of beer and walked out. When I got back in the car, my brothers (older) were laughing their asses off, my mom on the other hand, wasn't. Hearing my brothers tell that story at family functions/holidays never gets old.

Aerkuld 04-30-2009 05:43 PM

It was a real treat for me to go with Dad to the 'Pop shop' (Pop as in soda). My parents used to enjoy a small glass of sherry before Sunday dinner (they probably still do but I'm not there to tell). At the rate they drank it a bottle used to last three or four months, so trips down there were rare but Dad sometimes let me choose a bottle of fizzy pop which was the only time we'd really have it at home. The only other thing I remember was Dad taking the soda siphon down there every now and again to get replaced. As being as he was using soda water I'd guess he was drinking it with whisky but I don't recall seeing him buying it.

As far as I am concerned with my boys we do occasionally have to call into a 'beer shop' if I see one so I can look over the shelf to see if they have any interesting Scotch. I don't recall ever having bought anything when they were with me though. They only come in because I don't want to leave them in the car and they usually groan "Not again!" so it isn't something they will ever associate with pleasure. They couldn't be less interested. :)

the 04-30-2009 05:54 PM

can't say I've ever thought twice about taking kid into liquor store. it's not exactly an opium den or anything.

vash 04-30-2009 07:19 PM

i felt like i was in the inner circle when my dad walked me through a casino the first time. i got my first boner, when i saw the cocktail waitresses...

liquor stores, are just a store. that sells the "nectar of the gods".

911pcars 04-30-2009 08:51 PM

It depends on the liquor store. Some of those stores, not too far from me, are liquor fortresses - rough neighborhood. One store has a cashier counter on a 3 foot high platform; I guess for a better look at the snack shelves. In addition, the cashier is packing some very visible artillery. In fact, so too are his buddies on either side of him. Hmmm, must be those troublemaker kids from the nearby grammar school.

Not too long ago, near the LA Coliseum, some mom and pop grocery stores were partitioned such that the first room upon entering was just an empty space, but with a small window about 5 feet from the ground. Behind was the cashier. He took your order and had it filled in back. You give him cash, he gives you your goods.

I think that reduces excessive squeezing of peaches and tomatoes. :)

I guess that might generate some interesting conversations with your 5 year old. BTW, it's bad form to swig your beer out of a brown paper bag. Instead, use a paper cup.

Sherwood

coolngroovy 05-01-2009 12:15 AM

Late last year i was in Brisbane.
I took my 16yo to the bottle shop for a case of beer.
I had a mad back injury, so i couldnt lift anything.

Buying it was ok, but when i asked my son to grab the slab off the counter, it became an issue!
It seems he wasnt even allowed to carry it from the counter to the door. 2mtrs!

I explained that i couldn't do it, so the retailer had to........begrudgingly!

Stupid laws!........stupid times!


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