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unclebilly 05-03-2009 06:13 PM

Has anyone ever tried this?
 
So myself and a fellow pelican are building up a 77 2.7 CIS motor into a 3.8L.

We decided to retain the air injection ports in the heads and are going to rig up an ATF injection system with these. We are going to use a fuel pump to pump automatic transmission fluid directly into the hot exhaust ports when we push the smoke screen button on the dash.

What are your thoughts?

Do you think this will be legal for PCA club racing?

Should we inject ATF or power steering fluid?

unclebilly 05-03-2009 06:50 PM

Why was this moved to off topic? I am serious.

red-beard 05-03-2009 06:58 PM

True. This is a religious issue. It should be in PARF!

9dreizig 05-03-2009 07:01 PM

Actually I think the guys who do air shows use vegetable oil,,
Should be cool
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slakjaw 05-03-2009 07:01 PM

My vote is for extra virgin olive oil

9dreizig 05-03-2009 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 4642730)
Why was this moved to off topic? I am serious.

Just another case of some moderator in California oppressing the Canadian ..
I'd file a complaint with Wayne..:D
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cgarr 05-03-2009 07:16 PM

Just get some Super-Dri smoke oil, that's what we use at air shows, its not that much.

andrew15 05-03-2009 08:11 PM

Wait - you didn't have this setup last season?
Where was all THAT smoke coming from then?!

unclebilly 05-03-2009 08:54 PM

Last season I was running more of an external injection system where I was injecting the oil from a spray nozzle built directly into the oil cooler. It was aimed directly onto the right heat exchanger but I got black flagged because I was unable to turn this system off when I was in the pits...

Porsche_monkey 05-04-2009 05:23 AM

Aren't ATF and power steering fluid the same thing? They are on my car...

Is this for use as a mosquito fogger in Winnipeg?

GH85Carrera 05-04-2009 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche_monkey (Post 4643228)
Aren't ATF and power steering fluid the same thing? They are on my car...

Is this for use as a mosquito fogger in Winnipeg?

I doubt that. I recently replaced the PS pump and rack on my El Camino. The new pump had a big sticker saying the warranty would be void if ATF was used. Fresh PS fluid is clear, ATF is usually red. The GM factory workshop manual has a big warning about it as well.

porsche4life 05-04-2009 09:03 AM

Why is the smoke screen needed?

Tishabet 05-04-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche_monkey (Post 4643264)
Aren't ATF and power steering fluid the same thing? They are on my car...

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 4643264)
I doubt that. I recently replaced the PS pump and rack on my El Camino. The new pump had a big sticker saying the warranty would be void if ATF was used. Fresh PS fluid is clear, ATF is usually red. The GM factory workshop manual has a big warning about it as well.

They are definitely not the same thing, however Porsche uses ATF in the power steering systems of at least some of their cars, e.g. my 944. So while my 944 uses ATF as power steering fluid, actual power steering fluid is not ATF. Hope that made sense :D

mattdavis11 05-04-2009 10:45 AM

ATF and PS fluid are not the same. Many a Toyota Land Cruiser owner has put PS fluid in the reservoir causing leaks/ruining the pump. It calls for ATF.

Porsche_monkey 05-04-2009 12:58 PM

1998 and older Volvo's use DexronII. I guess they are the oddballs, I thought all cars used it.

Bill Douglas 05-04-2009 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 4643612)
Why is the smoke screen needed?

As a track car, once you get in front no one else stands a chance.

As a road car - doesn't in anoy you when people follow so close ;)

Heel n Toe 05-04-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 4643612)
Why is the smoke screen needed?

It's his strategy for keeping backmarkers from passing him on the track.

Think about it.

Heel n Toe 05-04-2009 01:07 PM

Bahdahbing... bahdahboom. :)

unclebilly 05-04-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 4644158)
It's his strategy for keeping backmarkers from passing him on the track.

Think about it.

Bastards... giving out all my racing secrets and strategy...

Heel n Toe 05-04-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 4644169)
Bastards... giving out all my racing secrets and strategy...

L O L ...as if anyone who ever saw James Bond hit the smokescreen button on his Aston Martin never thought it might be a useful tool in other applications. :D

Is this really true:

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclebilly (Post 4644169)
It was aimed directly onto the right heat exchanger but I got black flagged because I was unable to turn this system off when I was in the pits...



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