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"The passengers weren't in any danger"????????
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The passenger who filmed that must have thought, "Ooh, I can sell this video for a bunch of money!" Right after he cleaned his soiled undies.
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Seems strange that someone would film that. It was almost like the passenger was expecting it to fall off.
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some people have camera's glued to they're hands when they are on holidays.
over here, in Europe, we call em "Americans" 
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Look like a maintenance error IMO...
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Colgan is not getting very good press these days. That is not a good indication of future events.
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It happens. I've had the opposite problem -twice. A wheel locked up on landing. One time a student set the parking brake for landing!!! The other time the wheel assembly siezed at touchdown on a 727. Both made for interesting rollouts.
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We had a guy with family on board lose the entire landing pedestal on a Cherokee when departing from the airport in the southern Adirondacks. It was a club aircraft I believe so it must have had some pretty hard landings. He actually landed safely at ALB. Wife wasn't very happy, I would imagine.
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He didn't notice anything, I'll bet. People always filmed the gear on the F27's on the way to the canyon....yes, they were mostly Japanese.
I LOL'd when the news reports passed along the comment (from Colgan) that the plane was 'well maintained'.... Betcha they find a safety wire absent from the wheel nut debris. But then that's never happened before, huh? |
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Get this! Turns out the pax who took the vid 'SAW THE SAME GEAR SHOOTING FIRE AND SPARKS' on takeoff, and let the F/A (crew) know about it. Said she was 'unconcerned'.... On retraction, the gear stows into the nacelle, and disappears from sight.... hey, she didn't see anything wrong....
THAT was the reason he had the cam set to go on touchdown.... No, WAIT! It gets better..... Taxiing in, the cockpit crew was still unaware..... They lost hydraulic pressue (no brakes...) , and requested to be towed to the gate. More of Americas' Finest Crews.... Last edited by fingpilot; 05-16-2009 at 02:45 PM.. |
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For starters, the flight attendant should have (and possibly did) notify the crew up front about was was seen on takeoff. The crew should have then had their flight attendant either ask the passenger to elaborate enough so they could possibly get a clearer picture of what he said he saw, or even possibly have the passenger converse directly with the crew through the cabin to cockpit interphone. At that point I am thinking that "fire and sparks" flying from the wheel might have motivated the crew to declare an emergency and return to the airport they departed from, with CFR (crash, fire rescue) standing by. The outcome would not have been different, of course, but at least the possibility of a big problem during touchdown and rollout would have been prepared for, rather than waiting for the worst to possibly happen with nobody standing by to assist.
This is probably what fing meant. It's a professional attitude in which possible issues that arise are dealt with in a professional way, not possibly swept under the rug nonchalantly, hoping for the best. |
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Thanks Scott;
That is exactly what I meant. The prelim is also talking about the possibility of something being spotted during preflight. I grew up in the era of steel brakes transitioning to carbon brakes. Meant every landing/takeoff meant looking in brake channels for carbon pieces and broken safety wire. In the cabin, the VERY minimum responsibility on the F/A's part would have been to pass along the SLF's report of the takeoff fire and sparks. Let the cockpit crew decide if it was important, no matter how trivial it seemed to the F/A. The videotape starts with the pax filming the F/A telling the pax that he would be arrested if he continued scaring the pax with his story of flames and sparks. I'll bet she now allows the cutomers to decide if they'd like fries with that burger. |
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That episode of The Twilite Zone scared the crap out of me when I was a kid.
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